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12-04-2005, 06:50 PM
so with less than a week left until our association meeting at which this new design (http://www.suncoastwebdesigns.com/test/susbcba) will be unveiled

I noticed that my col-wrap image is not showing in firefox and opera which is quite disappointing to me - shows up in ie 6

as far as I can tell it validates for css, html and accessibility - seems to lay out ok if I remove the styles - still need to add the skip nav option

lemme know what you think

12-04-2005, 10:16 PM
I like it and it is very easy to use. Nice job on the XHTML as well, clean and straight to the point, no extraneous code. And with CSS disabled everything is still readable and navigatable.

And there didn't appear to be any graphical problems, there were some minor graphical differences though between Firefox 1.5 and IE6, the coloring around the blue side bars.

12-04-2005, 10:57 PM
thx og - did you happen to notice that the image in the middle column shows just fine in ie and not in ff or opera? or did it appear for you?

12-04-2005, 11:02 PM
i like it but i dunno about you guys but the blue on orange on the nav doesent do anything to the design

12-04-2005, 11:17 PM
The only major criticism I have is of the graphic part of the design. It just doesn't say "bowling." I mean, it's okay—it's a legible, three column layout; the colors don't clash too hard; the navigation is easy to, um, navigate—but nothing really stands out as far as representing a bowling association.

You do have those images in the header, but they're so ghosted out they're sort of moot.

My other criticism is a totally personal one I've ranted about before: you've stated a bunch that you're a "newbie" on this forum, yet you already have a web design company in the works. Might I suggest gaining a little experience first? :rolleyes:

The code is pretty clean throughout, great job there. A few tips/suggestions... You have a few 4th and 6th level headers on this page but nothing above that. There should—at least—be a top level header that explains what the page is about:

<h1>Suncoast USBC Bowling Assocation</h1>
(some people prefer to leave that in the title and use a <h2> instead) A perfect place to use it would be in your actual header—you can use text-replacement or some other method to hide it visually as well.

Another, you might want to think about renaming divs like this:

<div id="left-col">
and more like this:

<div id="navigation">
Which makes the page more semantic—for you, not for your audience. Good if you want to redesign later, and you don't need to keep thinking "Where was the nav again? In the right-col or the left-col-wrap?"

My $0.02. All in all good job so far. :)

12-04-2005, 11:34 PM
Thanks Crake and Rmedek...

long story about the suncoast web designs thing - that was when I thought I had all the answers *chuckles* validation and accessibility were never factors when that started - hell who needs em when ya got FrontPage to do your work for you! - I learned all about that from this forum and my neighbor next door and since I seem to learn something new everyday (not just from my posts) I consider myself still mostly a newbie

about the graphics - I'm so bad with those its not even funny - I barely came up with the banner - I have a ton of photo image cd's (I really don't like clipart - has to be the most perfect piece for me to use it) - I would hire someone to do it for me but there's no money in the budget - I do still welcome ideas though

about the color scheme - the original SBA logo was blue, yellow and orange and I was just trying to stay with it - I agree that it is plain

as far as the div names - at the risk of sounding like a smarty pants - this design is simple enough that I know where my nav is - but I do appreciate the point you made because let's hope this isn't the only site I ever build

and I will go back and adjust the <h#>'s - I hadn't realized that I had left them that way

thanks again!

12-05-2005, 10:33 PM
thx og - did you happen to notice that the image in the middle column shows just fine in ie and not in ff or opera? or did it appear for you?

No it didn't in FF, I missed that.

12-11-2005, 08:00 AM
I know this is 5 days after your last post og *chuckles* but I found what was causing me to not see the bg image that was applied to the #col-wrap in FF and Opera - would you believe I set the min-height to 800px and now I can see it all perfectly?

and just a follow up about the site images - I just dug out one of my old photshop books and I'm toying around with a few things ;)