View Full Version : I'm new to this - what do you think?

Paul Lifton
11-08-2005, 12:27 AM
I've been a programmer for a few years now but I was asked if I could design a site for a campsite. Please could you look at it for me and give me your honest opinion. Thanks in advance.

Site address: www.lower-polladras.co.uk

11-08-2005, 12:56 AM
its ok but iframes are 1998 web design standards and we are in 2005, iframes are like your in kindergarden learning the basics, now you need to graduate kindergarden and move on to first grade

Paul Lifton
11-08-2005, 01:11 AM
Thanks for your comments Al_90. What do you suggest I use instead of frames to keep top section static and move the rest of the page?

11-08-2005, 11:18 PM
Dear God, the birds man, the birds! Get rid of the birds! I refuse to look at the site until that's removed.

11-12-2005, 01:56 AM
Yeah, I think that the bird sound isn't really contributing to the site. As far as keeping the upper page static, you could try creating a template that you used for each page, which would hold the menu and everythng the same, and then you could add the content below. Each page would hold the same menu at the top and differnet content below.


11-16-2005, 12:33 PM
You can use css to position the header where it is unfortunately, IE doesn;t recognize hte 'fixed' attribute for position so it will scroll off the screen. Accept that. The fixed header really shrinks yor viewport anyway. I used PHP for all my pages and load the same heading file for every page on my site. you could just build a header file and paste into each page if you don't have php.
Agree with rest of the folks on the birds. Sounds; I absolutely refuse to stay on sites that play any sounds automatically.
Wold also recommend losing the borders on the menu bar.
The color scheme? not to my taste, really personal opinion. The layout is simple and clean. Nice start. do soe reading on css and layou I think you'll come up with yor own ideas.

11-16-2005, 01:09 PM
Major gripes:

Use of frames, any sort of frames; there's no need or real benefit to keep the header and navigation continually wasting screen real estate.
Sound files I cannot turn of. Get rid of them entirely (preferred), or at least provide a clear control with which I can turn it off.
Scrollers and marquees. the one near the header is bad enough, but hogging the status bar is an absolute no-no: never mess with the user interface.

The color scheme is a bit gaudy; I personally favour a slightly more subtle approach, but that's just me.
The contrast of the main content section could be better; you could keep the dark green for the header, but body text is just more legible when it's dark on a light background.
Most of the camp site photos are very nice (some are somewhat less), but I'd recommend giving them all a caption instead of relying on hover tooltip-like gadgetry (which didn't work on IE6.0/win, by the way). Don't make it hard for people to find what they're looking for; make it easy.

It's not that it's bad; it isn't. I just don't really like it that much.

By the way: I don't know where you copied that style sheet from, but it's really rather pointless to use one that doesn't seem to be designed for your site one bit.
Better get to grips with CSS yourself and leverage its power to remove presentational clutter from the markup and refine the site's appearance.