View Full Version : System will not start after installing 2nd HDD, IDE

04-28-2005, 12:29 PM
Hi all.

Yesterday I managed to install a secind HDD as a slave on my system using IDE. It took me a while to do as the system would start to start up every time I put the power cable back in then it would shut itself off after about 2 seconds.

Eventually I got it working, booted windows, changed bio boot order and everything was OK for the day, even when I shutdown and restarted my system.

Got up this morning, pressed Power On, and nothing happened, taken my new HDD out, Power On, nothing happened, left it a bit and it worked, but it could not find my old HDD, the one I boot from, it was trying to boot from my USB Zip Drive, so I have taken that out. When it booted that time it said it has shutdown due to CPU overheating, which I think is not possible as I had only turned my system on 2 mins earlier and all the sides were off.

Anyone shed some light on this random behaviour?


04-28-2005, 12:35 PM
How many fans do you have in your system? Did you leave it on overnight? More specs on the hard drive would be handy.

04-28-2005, 12:36 PM
well the system powering off soon after you've pressed the power on button either sounds like a motherboard faliure or a power fault with your new drive. Have you made sure your BIOS settings are correct?

could be that your motherboard or processor has gone and done a somersault because of overheating.....if this is the case, then they will need replacing.

04-28-2005, 12:45 PM
both hdd are seagate 40gb, what else would you like to know?

It could be overheating, but my system will still start up, when it feels like it. If the m/b and cpu were completely to shot would it just not start up at all?

The confusing thing is that when i take the new hdd out, it still does not work, which is the same setup my computer has been for the past year! But if I plug in the external zip then it boots, trys to boor from the zip, which it cannot do, then tells me to put in some bootable media?

Thanks for your time, I am very grateful. Any more ideas, I really dont want to have to replace anything, :(


04-28-2005, 12:55 PM
What happens when you don't have your USB drive plugged in? does your screen report no output..i.e. black screen or does something appear and then it hangs.

And btw, if a mobo is shot, it won't necessarily stop working all together (although sometimes it does) but sometimes it just doesn't work properly. Have you tried updating your BIOS 'cause that might be corrupt or dodgy.

04-28-2005, 01:48 PM
Could he have overloaded the power supply? When my power supply went dead it had problems with not wanting to power up all the time. Sometimes it would and sometimes it wouldn't. And it would shut itself down when it felt like it, either after a few seconds or a few minutes.

04-28-2005, 01:56 PM
Could be possible, but if the new hard disk isn't connected, he says it still won't boot. I suppose the PSU could be faulty.

04-28-2005, 02:25 PM
running with no sides on CPU temp is 44 deg C,
running with sides on and with my case fans on (I have 2 case fans) temp is 59 deg C, which even i know is too high by far!

I managed to get into the BIOS this time by dis connecting both HDDs AND MY DVD drive, i only had my floppy conneced.

IF i disconnect the zip from the usb i do not know wot happens as i still cannot turn my computer on.

thanks again.

04-28-2005, 02:56 PM
i am starting to think that its the PSU, if i just have the floppy connected it starts fine, as soon as i connect a HDD it starts, then stops 2 seconds later.

04-28-2005, 04:41 PM
Yeah to me it sounds like the PSU has somehow got damaged and has a power-cut out system on it. However, the motherboard is still sticking in my mind ;)

04-28-2005, 08:53 PM
I have semi sorted the problem now, when ever i turned the pc on with my old hdd in it crashed, or turned itself off nearly straight away.

WIth the new hdd in, it ran fine, so there is something wrong with my old hdd which is now about a year old, its going back to seagate asap.


04-28-2005, 09:04 PM
Sound like some type of power surge to me.....they all have 5 year warranties so they should replace it pretty fast, I had a new 120GB within 4 days.

04-28-2005, 09:09 PM
You should consider upgrading your power supply to a 450W pack.

04-28-2005, 09:31 PM
450W would be find for general needs, but a 500W is future proof as devices are getting more and more power hungry ;)

04-28-2005, 09:41 PM
Putting in a 500W power supply would not be future-proofing the computer.

04-28-2005, 11:58 PM
What PSU should I have for, a p4 3ghz, 1.5gb ram, 2 ide hdd, 1 dvd rom, 1 floppy, 1 usb zip, geforce 4, sound card and 2 system fans? I currently have a 450w

i took my old HDD to my mates PC and it was fine.
I am going to try it again in mine, I will post again to let u know what happens.

Finally, how and what is the best way of fitting 2 HDD to a pc, or should i just scrap 2 40gb and get an 80gb?


04-29-2005, 12:07 AM
Well in my desktop I have a 120GB seagate and a 30GB Seagate - I have them on the same IDE channel connected via a three headed rounded IDE cable. I have the 30GB (boot disk) set as Primary Master (and first boot device), then my 120GB as Primary Slave and not as a boot device. Then I have my cd/cd-rw set to Secondary Master and 2nd boot device.

That hasn't given me any problems with that...