View Full Version : Horrible Arguement!!!

03-26-2003, 01:52 PM

well, not really an arguement. If I saw him on the streets, I would punch him in the face. The reason websites do not work is because people do not update and maintain them. What do you guys think about this?

Also, he states errors with our websites, but does not tell people how he is gonna fix them himself???

The way u get to the top of the search engines is by getting views, and putting good contents in meta tags. Whoever gets up there, usually stays :-}

:mad: :mad: :mad:

what u guys think?

03-26-2003, 02:11 PM
I think you should change your sig unless you wanna annoy a mod :)

and he's using a marketting ploy to convince people that his ways are better, even if he is talking BS. Most marketters do this.

and also, calm down ;)

03-26-2003, 02:17 PM
Yup, it's all drivel.

My experience is that most people belie their integrity by their attitudes to the integrity of others - ie, if he believes that most web designers are inexperienced chancers, then it's a fairly safe bet that he, himself, is an inexperienced chancer.

And don't get me started on the site's fatal validation error, and the dozens of basic coding errors and accessibility problems it has ...

03-26-2003, 03:55 PM
It sounds like a script to an infomercial. :D

03-26-2003, 04:18 PM
aah, he's just trying to build his own reputation by ruining others.
him and his unprofessional site with loud highlights and underlines that ought to have been links, the page looks exactly like those lame 'earn-100,000-bucks-a-month-with-this-package-by-first-paying-$35' thingies that are all over the internet in all those 'top-money-making-secrets-that-generous-millionaires-have-decided-to-spill-out-to-you-because-they-love-you' topics.

Great damage? victimized? shocking truths?
sheeeesh! :rolleyes:

03-26-2003, 06:25 PM
I just sent him a message:

If you have the experience and skills you claim, can you explain to me why your own site is littered with basic coding errors, has numerous accessibiity problems, and cannot be validated due its lack of a (compulsory) DOCTYPE?

03-26-2003, 06:25 PM
And this is what happened:

ADODB.Command error '800a0d5d'

Application uses a value of the wrong type for the current operation.

/include/adohelper.asp, line 293

03-26-2003, 06:28 PM
lol :p That's just an l337 page, makes you think it's an error. See his way of thinking?


03-26-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by brothercake
I just sent him a message: lmao :D I was just going to point out that his title bar was doing my eyeballs in, not to mention that bloody thing sticking to the top right http://silverpaw3d.com/smilies/headscratch.gif

But Brothercake, who are you - or we on the greatest webdesign forum going - to criticise him? He's Microsoft certified* he can highlight AND underline text, HE uses an interesting combination of centered and left aligned text to completely comfusbicate, not to mention his title of "internet consultant management", wtf's that a manager of consultants?!

His page isn't too bad but wow, that guy knows how to get up my nose. :rolleyes:

* certified idiot methinks

03-26-2003, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by mouse
He's Microsoft certified*
Oh sorry, I forgot ...

"I summon the vast power of certification ..."

There; that's alright then.

03-27-2003, 01:33 AM
I am not sure whether he is genious, or an idiot?

he is either really smart and knows people will beleive him, or he as an idiot and beleives what he writes.

03-27-2003, 01:11 PM
If he was smart he'd realise that other people can see through his cheap psychological tactics. Obi Wan Kenobi once said this:

"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"

You see, because Darth Vader is evil he cannot directly know what it is to be a good man, so he literally *cannot even imagine* what kind of power and transcendence is available to a good and virtuous Jedi.

So it is here - if this guy had 1% of the skills, experience and nous that he claims, he would realise that his livelihood depends on reputation; there are enough conscientious and intelligent people in this industry that charlatans and cowboys never make it to the real deals, or if by blag they do, their contracts are not renewed ;) he'll either spend his career chasing low-value contracts for companies who "don't know any better", or he'll realise and decide to do things properly, or he'll go out of business.

03-27-2003, 01:18 PM
If he was smart he'd realise that other people can see through his cheap psychological tactics.
We designers can; some customers possibly can't, and that's of course what he's hoping for... (yikes, that's very customer-unfriendly...)

03-27-2003, 01:22 PM
I edited and added some more ...

03-27-2003, 01:55 PM
I read that months ago. I was thinking about not registering a domain and paying for hosting after reading it..

03-27-2003, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about the guy.. would you trust a mug like that to make you a site. I hate that he harps on good 'basement developers' but he does have a point there have been countless people who have taken advantage in the past of a customers niavity with regards to the net... but you get that in every business! :rolleyes:

03-28-2003, 06:07 PM
All he is doing is trying to sell his product and if he makes up some phony customer reviews and praises then writes a whole thing about how he won't give you the shaft all he is doing, using his words, "creating a smoke screen" for people that are nervous about hiring some small company or freelancer to create their site.

Also about his blurb about how websites shouldn't cost anything, thats just like saying my mechanic shouldn't charge me anything to fix my car. Using the same idea, if I learn how to fix my car myself I don't have to pay someone to do it, just like with websites.

My best suggestion would be to write this guy and tell him what you think. Do it nicely of course...

04-03-2003, 05:51 PM
didn't one of u send him email?

I just sent him a message:


If you have the experience and skills you claim, can you explain to me why your own site is littered with basic coding errors, has numerous accessibiity problems, and cannot be validated due its lack of a (compulsory) DOCTYPE?

Has he replied?

Quiet Storm
04-03-2003, 06:16 PM
This is his idea of good web design?!:


04-03-2003, 08:08 PM
This process leverages off specialized server software and hardware hide the site’s programming code. ( http://www.websites-dont-work.com/services.asp?sec=9# )

... I assume then that the server wears a zorro-like mask or perhaps uses dilithium crystals to power its cloaking mechanism :rolleyes:

04-03-2003, 10:10 PM
WSI Internet Consultants deploy their clients’ websites in a way that will automatically bring them as close as possible to the top of the list on many search engine inquiries.

And he must use his flux capacitor for that one... For a guy claiming not to give people the shaft and saying:

They talk a good game, and can get your head spinning with terms like Java, HTML, and MS SQL databases...

He sure likes to contradict himself... He probably isn't even that older guy pictured on the article that was posted initally in the thread.

04-03-2003, 10:39 PM
This is his idea of good web design?!:


that is beyond belief.

my my, what a lovely large brain you've got, grandpa!

Quiet Storm
04-03-2003, 11:10 PM
I should've got a screenshot of it... darn page is really screwed up, now!