View Full Version : The wc3 validator

06-23-2007, 04:41 PM
Of most them webdesigners i see almost 90% is non -validated by the WC3 Validator. I believe WC3 Is not a 'standard' but i'm pretty much convinced that the code must work under all types of browsers without any weird bugs / errors / resizing problems.

In the Paid work offter Subforums, often a site or someone who offers himself gets mowed down by the Validation of WC3, while it's not a standard! It's not needed to keep you to the scrict rules of Wc3.

how about you guys? Why is wc3 so important? :)

06-23-2007, 06:35 PM
First off its w3c not wc3. Second its important because they define the standards for web pages. I feel if you call yourself a web designer then you should be up to date with the standards. If you don't know what these are then learn them before you call yourself a web designer especially if you are asking to get paid to do it. Just in case you didn't know check out this doctype.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
What url do you see in there?

06-23-2007, 10:03 PM
It is a standard in the sense that it's defined by the organisational body of the Internet and supported by professional designers and developers the world over.

It's not a standard in the sense that it's adhered to by the majority of websites, simply because there are far more bad designers and developers out there than there are good.

06-23-2007, 11:13 PM
Another reason most people completely ignore standards is that they are abstract and utopian - in the real world, browsers don't all support every standard, and they are also very forgiving of un-standard code.

Across the board standard adherence will not occur until browsers fully support standards, and stop supporting things like the marquee tags. :D

A lot of people's attitudes seem to be, "If you CAN code it badly, why bother sticking to standards?"


06-24-2007, 12:18 AM
To me the standards are as a guide that lets me know when I'm too far to the right or to the left. It makes browser-compliance much easier.

06-24-2007, 02:12 AM
The W3C standards are a part of the standards that any good web designer will be following. Their standards are directed mainly at what the web browser writers should be doing and since browsers are supposed to correct badly written code where ever possible there are lots of things listed as optional in those standards that are mandatory for good coding practice.

As the browser writers move closer to supporting the W3C standards with each release of their browser, coding your page to those standards should help to future proof your code.

Some of the really popular pages on the web deliberately ignore specific standards in order to reduce bandwidth requirements. These involve a thorough knowledge of both the standards and the behaviour of many different browsers so as to be able to determine that the particular exception can be made without breaking the page functionality. This is the exact reverse situation from those pages that don't follow the standards because of ignorance on the part of the page author as such pages probably don't work properly on most browsers.

06-24-2007, 03:09 AM
It's not a standard in the sense that it's adhered to by the majority of websites, simply because there are far more bad designers and developers out there than there are good.

Let's guess which group you fall in to.

06-24-2007, 03:15 AM
:D :D

Can't say much more that that :D

Oops, thats twice I have ahd a 'go' at Pennimus. Nothing personal!! If I criticise/where I do so, it is based only on what was written. :o

06-24-2007, 07:53 PM
Like some forums or '1-2-3' packages are way off limit. it's far from being optimized, like just hit an forum adress into w3c validator and u'll see the horror :D

I'll try as much as i can to make it work under FF, I.e, and compliant with w3c, but by some things it's just hard to get her done.

I rather have a website with 1 error instead of 10.

06-24-2007, 08:50 PM
Let's guess which group you fall in to.

Yep, good guess, I code valid sites.