View Full Version : Does this page's content make sense to non-math people?

01-18-2007, 05:34 AM
Hello everyone! I've finally got the layout and structure of my site down. Now all I need is to be sure that people appreciate the content! I would greatly appreciate it if you would take a look at these two pages and tell me if they are interesting, understandable, or in need of improvement. Thank you so much!


Karen S. Garvin
01-22-2007, 03:55 PM
I'm not sure anything makes sense to non-math people :D just kidding...

It makes sense to me, looks interesting. A quick word about your pricing information, though: don't give people a $0.22 per square inch price tag -- if they're mathophobes, they'll go on overload right there -- just give them a set price for each item.

01-23-2007, 01:10 AM
viewed this in opera 9.02 with javascript disabled.

everything remains usable, but there seems to be an unresponsive link in the "Click here if you already have Flash Player installed" message (not sure what's supposed to happen).

it's a really minor point, and maybe it's something that i'm doing wrong, but i thought i'd mention it just in case.

otherwise, this looks like a pretty cool site. i'm no great shakes when it comes to maths, but you actually make it seem quite interesting, and have pulled off the psychedelic look really well without letting everything become gaudy (nice client-side effects!).

think i'll be off to listen to my hendrix LPs :D

01-24-2007, 08:15 PM
Thank you both very much for your input. MattyJim, thanks for trying out that Flash link. It's supposed to refresh the page, but I have it do it with javascript:


Anyone know how to refresh on a click without javascript?
Karen, excellent idea about pricing. I hadn't thought of that at all, but I will make that change. Why can't everyone be really good at math?

Thanks again you two.

Karen S. Garvin
01-25-2007, 02:39 PM
Hi again,

It's not just about the math. Some customers will start trying to negotiate weird photo sizes with you just so they can save a few pennies. I've run into some of these customers in my graphic design days, and they are awful to work with. If they only have one or two selections, they're okay.

It's like this: if you just have chocolate or vanilla ice cream, the customer can usually decide. If you give them a choice of 31 flavors, they can't decide! :p

Good luck with your site.

02-20-2007, 05:47 PM
I love your art!

I love the concept, and I empathise with your spiel about a marriage between the rigidity of maths and the vagueness of art.

BUT! (and this is a very big "But") - if I had come upon your site without the intention of reviewing it, and had started reading, I would have closed the window before I ever saw the art...

Without getting too personal and bogged down with a potentially heated discussion, I find some of your assertions about Art, Science and so forth a little dogmatic and absolutist. Whatever your beliefs and opinions may be, you certainly come across with a modicum of pretension and, philosophically speaking, a lack of humility.

I'm well versed in philosophy and the sciences, and strongly suspect that a high proportion of your audience would raise many a flag of caution at some of your ideas. Now that's all very well, and I don't care to debate these ideas, nor is 'truth' (I use the word ironically) relevant to my point. The point is that you don't want to risk alienating people when your primary goal is to sell art.

By all means, keep the introduction - it adds a lot to one's understanding of your motivation - but tone it done a little. In brief: avoid 'stating' what 'is', and word your ideas in such a way that no-one could ever accuse you of implying objectivity.

Another important facet is that the style of the writing is clearly not aimed at the masses. That's fine (and appropriate), but the more intellectual your audience, the more likely they are to take umbrage at any hint of absolutism.

I for one, as I said, would have not have bothered to make another click (even though that would have been 'wrong' and prejudicial, I admit).

Good site though - and fascinating art.

PS I was looking at your Mandelbrot "Coronal Flare", and a friend in the same room as me happened to look over at the screen. He laughed and said "Please buy today!" - "...Sounds a bit desperate!"
That was certainly my reaction too. The "today" seems a little pushy. Why not a simple "For Sale" or something more professional and not so reminiscent of Advertising Speak? Such 'pop psychology' tactics are far less effective on your audience-type, and likely somewhat deleterious.

PPS - Some other post in this thread mentioned the word 'psychedelic'. I forget what was written, but I'd certainly wonder whether you wouldn't better serve your interests by toning down the colour scheme on the home page.
I have very different associations in my mind between the integrity and sophistication of your art and the aesthetic representation of said qualities. Yes, the ART has such colours, but the concept (pseudo-synaesthetically for me) does not - it's more conservative. Of course you need a balance to retain some homogeneity, though. Just a thought.

Karen S. Garvin
02-20-2007, 07:34 PM
Mmm, good point about

"Please buy today!" - "...Sounds a bit desperate"

I've seen "Buy now" which is immediate without being desperate. It also lets the viewer know they can click and go right to the shopping cart page (I am assuming this is so?).

As far as content, you could do a separate page for your philosophy. Make the homepage more arty, less wordy. Then as viewers go deeper into the site, they get deeper into the meaning... kinda works, doesn't it?

02-22-2007, 03:59 PM
doesn't make sense to non-math people,
good site anyway:)