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    What do you think about www.music-abuse.com

    I've just finished this new eCommerce website www.music-abuse.com. Can you people just suggest me how it looks, its search combination, navigation, product offering, content, internal pages and about anything else.

    Can you suggest, more features and anything special to make it better? Thanks very much!

    Cerciello Giuseppe
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    You should have this moved to the site reviews forum.

    This site sucks. I'm just saying.

    It starts with a splash intro page, so I pressed "enter." What happens? A new window spawns with ANOTHER splash page while the page loads. The page I finally get to is covered in enough Flash to freeze Camino, not to mention starts off playing music before I had a chance to turn my speakers down.

    I hit "stop," look an another page and—whaddya know—the music starts again. So I hit "stop" and "close."

    Oog.

    In all honesty I think you need to forget about "cool effects" and concentrate on the people who have to go through the business of using your web site.

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    I entirely agree with your comments, infact I am forced to go this route for this reason:

    1. The start splash page has been created to open a new controlled window to avoid the block popups in vogue in today browsers. The reason why I needed the controlled window is to disable the browser back button as the site has been developed entirely in flash. I can't think of any other solution to avoid the browser back arrows. I would appreciate any idea about.

    For the intro animation presentation I can take it away and just leave a link if the user like to see it later that's not a problem if I do realize that users get annoyed about it.

    Thanks allot for your comment.

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    Agree too with the above.

    Why even make me open a new window?! You should just point the domain to http://www.music-abuse.com/index.php .

    The coding is very bad, and why-oh-why is the whole site in Flash? Great, there's a little animation in between loading pages, but do the majority of end users really care? Nope. Will it stop some users accessing your site? Yup.

    Don't get me wrong, it looks okay, well with a few exceptions such as those tacky play buttons; but I don't think many of the users will even bother staying on the site for more than a minute.

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    mark87 thanks for your time and comments, really appreciated.

    gC

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcpmusic
    infact I am forced to go this route for this reason:

    1. The start splash page has been created to open a new controlled window to avoid the block popups in vogue in today browsers. The reason why I needed the controlled window is to disable the browser back button as the site has been developed entirely in flash. I can't think of any other solution to avoid the browser back arrows. I would appreciate any idea about.
    You could a) not develop the entire site in Flash, and b) not disable the back button.

    I'm assuming you want to sell music via this site; have you considered the people who will visit your site and what their needs are, or did you just go with all Flash because it's cool?

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    Ok guys, I do see all your points and on some I do agree and I really appreciate your comments, thanks allot, after all I am not a designer but a musician. But, just for the conversation, what really I don't understaind what is your matter with flash! if my design is crap that's ok it's all my fault but flash is an amaizing piece of technology with should make specially you guys "that have the know how for design" really happy!

    Yes surely you can built a fake "multimedia" site in html but will always be a crap, dated and with all the browsers and platforms compatibilities issues. In the end you can only see one big design cliche. They all looks like a template to me. Happelly I putted all this behoid me last millenium.

    I feel that an artist should have the balls to be creative and innovative and forget about the stupid sticky tables that just kills your immaginations if there is one. I f you have a good design skylls you will be a fantastic designer using flash technology that, at list as I proved, is capable to technically complete a full blow eCommerce website.

    Ok flash still has some drowback but are becoming smaller and smaller today. Re-think about! after all is up to you to make a great design. Flash gives you all the tools you can dream off in the booring html world.

    Finally rmedek getted to the real point:

    "have you considered the people who will visit your site and what their needs are"

    That's exactly what I am doing, trying to provide the best multimedia music they can find. If you need a particular music would you care about my design . . I don't think so . . . but you will be glad to quickly search and purchaise a legally sicure license paying via the most established Payment processing on earth "PayPal". In minutes you are up and getting along with your productions.

    Hope this is not getting out of the topic.

    Cheers
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    It's not the Flash I have a problem with—used well it's extremely effective and can be a great creative tool.

    The issue I have is it seems you've ignored the needs of your user—someone who wants to quickly search for music, purchase a license, and get on with their production—in favor of animation, background music, and effects. It's just not very user-friendly. In your all Flash design there's no back button, no copy/paste of information, no bookmarking, no search engine friendliness, and no accessibility for the disabled.

    I say wait a while, and if the clients are knocking down your door due to your leet web design skillz I'll take it all back and apologize. In the meantime, after two spash pages, one pop-up window, pages that refuse to pay attention to my no-background-music preferences, and a forced user registration before I can even start browsing music… well, let's just say I wouldn't stick around.

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    Hello Richard,

    There are back buttons everywhere specially where you need one.

    There is no way to rip anything off this site (thanks flash) no copy/paste purposly enabled unless necessary.

    I don't see the point to bookmark from the site or from the browser, still one click.

    I Implemented the Google SDK and I can only wait to see how effective will be.

    Sorry I am missing something here, what you can do about the accessibility for the disabled in html? if there is a way surelly can be done mutch better in flash.

    Best wishes
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    Why post here if all you want is for us to say your website is great?
    I have no idea what your site is like because I dont have flash 8 (which I assume is what I need to see it).

    I'm at work and I have to log on as administrator to install things on this computer, I'm certainly not going to go to all those lengths just to look at your website. I'm sure if I was looking for that sort of thing, there would be loads of sites able to accomodate my needs.

    From your comments its obvious that you know nothing about web design and have no interest in learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcpmusic
    There is no way to rip anything off this site (thanks flash) no copy/paste purposly enabled unless necessary.
    I really don't like your site...no offence.

    Anyway, I can just Sothinks SWF Decompiler to decompile your SWF into a FLA and rip anything off it, providing it isn't protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel
    I really don't like your site...no offence.

    Anyway, I can just Sothinks SWF Decompiler to decompile your SWF into a FLA and rip anything off it, providing it isn't protected.
    There are loads of tools now that you can install as browser plugins and rip a swf and decompile it in 1 click. Anyone who thinks flash is going to protect them from having their stuff stolen is naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmedek
    In your all Flash design there's no back button, no copy/paste of information
    I am not concerned at all about the ripping off of flash. I used this term only replying to the post above. Copying and pasting from any intellectual property shouldn't be done.

    Quote Originally Posted by NancyJ
    Why post here if all you want is for us to say your website is great?
    I have no idea what your site is like because I dont have flash 8 (which I assume is what I need to see it)
    As I sayed, I do see all your points and on some I do agree. I really appreciate your comments and I do am learning allot from them. Will not do any good to me if people just say great or bad site. This is very constractive not only for me but for everybody reading this thread.

    Anyway how can you partecipate if you are unable to view the subject of this thread?

    Cerciello Giuseppe

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyJ
    There are loads of tools now that you can install as browser plugins and rip a swf and decompile it in 1 click. Anyone who thinks flash is going to protect them from having their stuff stolen is naive.
    Indeed.

    The whole site looks *really* bad - I mean, not just from a design point of view. The code, well dare I say anything about it?

    The design is just a load of flashing and moving images/text..."cool" effects like this, aren't cool.

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    to which code are you referring, the flash code or the html code?


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