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    AdagioSpa.com

    Hey guys,

    Can you give me a quick review of this site please? I'm about to deliver it to the client.

    http://www.adagiospa.com/_adg/index.php

    It was not commisioned to be an "accessible" site, per se, thus any accessibility stuff I did on my own. It should be quite accessible nonetheless. It's what I do ;-)

    Their main desire was fast, good-looking, sophisticated. To match their business. The colors used are theirs. Now, that said, I like the colors and dig the site. I think I did pretty good for three days work. But I probably say that about all my work. :lol:

    Thanks in advance,
    Mike

    Side note: I made this entire site with the GreenBeast CMS v.1.1 that I should be releasing for download tonight or tomorrow. It really works, hahaha! http://www.greenbeastcms.com

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    Its a good site. The color scheme looks good to. Your CMS must be pretty powerful. I would be willing to try it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Aerospace_Eng_
    Its a good site. The color scheme looks good to. Your CMS must be pretty powerful. I would be willing to try it out.
    Thanks man. Please by all means do try the CMS. It is pretty powerful in some ways (the Content Updater is feature rich, for example, and the data page has some cool stuff), but it is lacking in a couple of ways as well. Namely setup-ease and file creation. It does not make files, and some of the setup is done in a quasi-raw form. It's really super easy to anyone who can follow directions and to anyone halfway comfortable (not knowledgeable per se) with this stuff, but unconventional in a way.

    I think it may be ideal for the smart web developer to use to deliver it to a client as part of their web site package (like I did with this Adagio site). It's great for the client as they can update existing files until their blue in the face and since smartypants has been incorporated in the scripting, they can have their ampersands and mdashes and ellipses such, so if the site is set-up in a good way, the client can go nuts with content (and hire their deveopler if they want whole new pages ).

    How I created this site was to create the files I needed to make the site locally, all scripting, CSS, every single file. All blank. I then moved the named files and folders onto the server via FTP. Then set their persmissions (some 666, some 777). The rest was done via my browser. Handcoded, but I use PHP so much it's not that much work. Links, for instance, are written once and only once, in a global variable file. I then make the nav menu and simply include them...
    Code:
    <ul>
    <li><?=$link_1 ?></li>
    </ul>
    ...and then include the nav menu in the structure pages. I'm kinda getting a system down. I totally love modular design. It's so easy and fast to implement. I'm sort of lazy so it works out well.

    If you would like to try the CMS the download live should be live sometime late tonight or tomorrow. Depending on how fast I can tie-up the last few things. A high-vis style sheet will be made pretty soon and the XML/RSS newsmaker plugin will be available sometime after that. It's done already, actually, (I made one for http://www.greenmethods.com when I built that), but it needs to be fitted and such to work as a simple plug-and-play.

    Btw, the version two will not have the shortcomings I mentioned (plus an installer and live patch updater and autofill, and levels of admin, etc, etc, but that'll probably be months away (at least I think... my plate is overflowing with work as it is). HOPEFULLY, it'll stay simple and easy to use.

    Mike

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    It looks really good, the markup is mostly great (couple of little niggles, but nothing important), the only thing I have a problem with is the use of XHTML when HTML would have been better. You are sending it as HTML after all.

    Great site. Now update your own site with the download so I can have a play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hemebond
    It looks really good, the markup is mostly great (couple of little niggles, but nothing important), the only thing I have a problem with is the use of XHTML when HTML would have been better. You are sending it as HTML after all.
    Good catch. Youre right. I have a whole stable of xhtml sites being sent as text/html, but the thought is is that that will be temporary. Sometimes I put an explanation in the source code, as I did with http://www.greenmethods.com. View source at that site and read the short message just below the DTD. It'll lend insight as to why I'm making xhtml sites. Not really sure if I'm doing the right thing, but then again I don't really agree with Hixie's article on the subject either.

    Quote Originally Posted by hemebond
    Great site. Now update your own site with the download so I can have a play.
    Lol, roger that. Starting to work on it as soon as I hit Submit Reply here

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    Nice job man! I lov the colors!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PcMan
    Nice job man! I lov the colors!
    Thanks man.

    I guess I won't be turning out the CMS tonight. My server's down. It was last night for hours. I need to find a new host. It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't the host, I'd just go over to ipower or something. My servers are on a server farm in Canada (I can't touch them) and they suck, to be frank. Not the servers, the farmhands. It's kinda of a sticky situation. Our customers, my companies, trying to launch a CMS. Yada, yada.

    On the bright side. There's a integral live feed for bringing update notices and such to CMS users and due to outages (and not wanting people to get ugly PHP errors, even though the application's use would be unaffected), there's a built in file fed from local file saying the feed in temporarily out of service. Uh, what's this... hold on.. brb

    [email comes in, Mike checks it out, a moment passes]

    I'm back. Well, they still suck but I am supposed to up again in five minutes. Who knows. If it can stay up the rest of the night I might get this done yet.

    Ha, wish me luck.
    Mike

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    The CMS is done

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    you might consider preloading your rollover images.
    I personally dont like the thick black lines, it really emphasises the fact that the right column doesnt have a left or bottom border and especially the fact that if it did the 2 columns would be ever so slightly different in length but thats just my niggle.

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    Thanks Nancy. I agree with you. I must assume you have a slower connection. It was first pointed out to me by a dialup user. I will deal with this on my next build. I have some ideas. One is to hide the images off screen using CSS that way they get loaded with the page. Another is to apply transparency (that would have been ideal), that way I could have put the color underneath, loaded the same dark blue transparency over it (one image) and simply removed it for the mouseover state. That's no easy feat, though with images, and haven't tried the CSS transparency tricks. They seem pretty deep.

    What I should have done in this case, at the very least, is to put the color down first and have the blue on top as the default state that way I could have simply stripped the images on mouseover. No loading needed. I live, I learn. Thank you very much for bringing up this concern. it's a very valid one. One I may still address even though the site is effectively delivered. I need to talk to the client on Monday. So far the job is a profitable one. I sure would hate to ruin that aspect of it even though I love doing this stuff. Wife, kids, mouths to feed, yada, yada, yada...

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    I'm sort of iffy about the whole border thing myself, but it looks worse without it I discovered. I'm torn.

    Sincerely,
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    I like everything except the blue square image beneath the menu on the hair care page. It reminds me of one of those late night Girls! Girls! Girls! commercials. That's probably just me though...I work 3rd shift so I see those commercials a lot.

    Great job on the site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroChris
    I like everything except the blue square image beneath the menu on the hair care page. It reminds me of one of those late night Girls! Girls! Girls! commercials. That's probably just me though...I work 3rd shift so I see those commercials a lot.

    Great job on the site!
    ROFLMFAO. Thanks man. That is the only image on the site I supplied. Haha, this too funny.

    Mike

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    I have 1.5mb broadband and a gaming rig not exactly slow Not matter how fast the connection there is a loading delay on when you rollover, however small that may be -
    It takes a few minutes to do a javascript preload so I wouldnt worry about losing money onthe project here - curtesy of macromedia:

    Code:
    function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
      var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
        var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
        if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
    }
    
    ...
    <body onload="MM_preloadImages('image1.jpg', 'image2.jpg')">

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    GB, regarding the menu rollovers, you could use one large image for all buttons and just position it to the top-left of the parent container. Also, you should send the proper MIME type to browsers that accept it.
    Last edited by hemebond; 08-07-2005 at 11:05 PM.
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    Very attractive.

    After looking at your personal pages the color scheme feels real familiar Works well though.

    3 little things that get me.

    1) the footer box on the home page sits off the bottom. I know it does on every page but on every other page there is enough content ot make it go past the left colum. On the home page the left colum sits on thebottom and the footer sits up some . Kind of looks off. on the other pages it fits fine since it's well past the left colum.

    2) the dark part of the gradient on the left column loks to sharp. The lighter colors blend smoothly but the dark green seems to have a 'edge' on it.

    3) The faded green background on the right column. It looks fine at first but on longer pages where you notice the repeating it looks blah to me. Maybe a right sided gradient? I don't know.
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