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    www.ruedelagare.co.uk

    howdy all, not quite finished but more or less there barring some tweaks, no pictures yet as the place is being refurbished, mostly rubble and dirt at the mo, but I'm doing some advertising so it is 'live'

    grateful for your thoughts, impressions etc

    fairly raw beginner, all done in Dreamweaver so please don't get over techy about the coding!

    cheers

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    Coding is what it's about...

    Dude... check the site title... OF COURSE we're going to tear your code to pieces!!!

    Gotta run: anyone feel like kicking off (tables, spacer gifs - LOTS of 'em...).

    Oh, by the way: next time, do post an actual link; saves lazy bums like me from cutting and pasting the address...
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    www.ruedelagare.co.uk for all the lazy people like me

    The coding is what's behind a site, so we're gonna mention it. It's sorta like having a real nice looking car on the outside and not telling anyone to look inside it as you've got wooden seats and a trash can lid for a steering wheel.

    The spacer images you've got, you don't need, nor do you need to use tables. It's good that it makes you look at the photos first, but that's probably as the rest of the main page is boring. Looks ugly to be honest.

    Is there any reason why your main navigation text is used as images? Could just use normal text for that and get exactly the same effect.

    How about under the details area, actually show pics of what you're describing? Will add colour to your pages and words and pictures go together alot better. Will add some style to the pages instead of boring paragraphs of text.

    You're trying to advertise the cottage, but doesn't seem like you're trying to 'sell' it to potential holiday goers.

    1. Needs more pics. Sell it to people, don't bore them with text
    2. Try to learn html - divs & css, instead of tables with spacer images
    3. Add colour to the site
    4. Use text on the navigation headers instead of images
    5. Photos of the nearby attractions
    6. Change the green on the availability page - Yuck. Doesn't fit in when the rest of your site is just black text
    7. How about showing basic prices range?
    8. How easy is it to get to? Maybe have a map on there to show where it is?
    9. Isn't the french flag meant to be blue white and red? You've got purple white and a pinky colour

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    I hear what you say, still learning, a lot, have very few pictures at the moment that don't show rubble of some kind, I'll be putting some in as the refurbishment go ahead

    Flag looks ok on every screen I've tried it on, I like the green but it did scare me on someone else's screen, I'll admit, perhaps a little less of it

    Thanks for your tips, I'll work towards them, it's been operation sling it together and muddle through so far, little or no idea what spacers even are at the mo

    cheers fellas

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    Spacer images

    Spacer images are transparent gif images that serve no other purpose then to force a table cell to have a certain minimum width.
    Instead of using tables for layout purposes, there's a strong movement towards using Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) for layout purposes. Although it's not perfect, there are real benefits to be had: in most cases, maintenance gets easier and faster, page sizes (and thereby download times) drop and pages are easier to get accessible (which improves SE ranking).

    To learn more about these topices, look around the various forums, follow interesting-looking threads, and check out the documentation in the HTML & CSS Documentation sticky in the HTML & CSS forum.
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    cool, cheers, give me time ...

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    Time?

    Sorry, I'm in deparately short supply of that myself...

    Yeah, I know: getting to grips with this stuff takes quite some time. Keep hanging around the forums, though; I found it a very fast way to get acquainted with much of what's going on in the web development world at the moment. That, and blogs...
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    This is why i advise against using Dreamweaver:

    Code:
              <tr> 
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="42" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="115" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="29" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="91" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="28" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="150" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="30" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="111" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="27" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="60" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="47" height="1" border="0"></td>
                <td><img src="popsnew/spacer.gif" alt="" name="undefined_2" width="1" height="1" border="0"></td>
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    Not strictly DW's fault

    That's not exclusively the fault of Dreamweaver; the user has to be aware what is generated "below decks" and make a conscious decision about not using spacer gifs, or layout tables altogether, for that matter.

    At least the more recent versions offer good alternatives; I agree that tools like DW can spit out a lot of... erm, less elegant code when used by unexperienced users, but that's the case for all advanced tools: owning a pocket calculator does not make one a mathematician.
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    Is that bad? I found it rather impressive!

    Even a newboy like me has found himself cutting chunks of code out that seem to accumulate and replicate as the page gets revised and fiddled with

    handy when you can't/won't code

    cheers chaps, look forward to my painful questions on the most mundane of issues
    Last edited by Tynan; 10-14-2004 at 03:28 PM.


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