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    Tips and suggestions for my website please

    Hi, my site is not on search engines and stuff yet because I want to get it completely up and running before I really let people see it.

    But I would greatly appreciate any tips and suggestions for my website.

    I'd even like a suggestion about what kind of background to give to this website, I don't want to just color it and I don't know what kind of image to use as the background.

    I've been testing the website in every browser I know of so hopefully I won't need tips about that. IE, Netscape, Mozilla, Mozilla Firefox, and Opera (what others are there?)

    Anyway, here is the URL
    http://www.geocities.com/thefreegreetings/

    By the way, I know that most of the links to card categories are broken. I only have one card up as of yet which is in the "Baby Congrats" section. I want to perfect that page before I do the other pages so I can use that page as a template. The "Home" and "Submitting A Card" page do work

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    Try using something like SSI (server side includes) instead of Frames.

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    this is a geocities free website. I'm pretty certain you can't do server side stuff. And I have no idea what server side stuff is or how to do it

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    actually, geocities can handle ssi. I have a geocities site, and i use this code for my menu:

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    <!--#include file="file_to_be_included.html" -->
    but from what I'm currently experiencing, geocities sometimes doesn't display the page with ssi correctly. All you have to do to view the page properly is refresh.
    Running Windows 7 x64

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    Except for the aforementioned frames, get some color in there to spice it up. While you're at it, try to find a better host than geocities, they don't give you much room for expansion in terms of design.

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    What exactly does this SSI do/look like? I kinda like the frames, and they always work. But I may consider the SSI if I like it. have a url to show an example of it?

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    Running Windows 7 x64

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    Ssi?!!

    Forget about SSI! Start with some basic design first. Heck, start with proper HTML first! There are better ways to mark up lists than line breaks and asterisks...

    Apart from the frames, which do not serve a role of any importance here, there's nothing of a header to give any user a sort of indication where he/she is. Oh, and non-functional links are best left off; page-not-found pages are pretty annoying.
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    I'd look at the HTML tutorial at W3Schools (heck, we link to that a lot), and if you want even cleaner HTML, try doing the XHTML tutorial.

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    Thanks, I have gained from these bits of advice and would still appreciate more advice from others as well.

    Here are some responses to some things said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Antoniohawk
    get some color in there to spice it up. While you're at it, try to find a better host than geocities, they don't give you much room for expansion in terms of design.
    Yes, I do need to spice it up, I'm still deciding on what kind of background to use. As for geocities, the only problems I've ever had making a website is
    1. the fact that I'd rather my site be ___.com not geocities.com/___
    2. Server side and flash stuff won't work
    3. File space
    I can deal with the url name, and I don't do much with flash and such. But as for the file space I figured a way to have free sites on geocities be as big as I want them to be using frames. I've built a few sites that used as many as 12 different geocities accounts and the users don't know that they are technically at a different account because my site is in frames and they see the url of the frame on the main account. They would of course know it's another account if they look at the url for the frame they're in but average users don't do that unless they're curious enough, doesn't matter anyway. This, by the way, is why I like the frames.

    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldb66
    start with proper HTML first! There are better ways to mark up lists than line breaks and asterisks...
    Point taken about those asterisks, and I was planning on leaving them that way because it was simply an update and I have never put any scripting in update messages except bold, italics, or underlining. I have however changed it and it does look better.

    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldb66
    Apart from the frames, which do not serve a role of any importance here, there's nothing of a header to give any user a sort of indication where he/she is. Oh, and non-functional links are best left off; page-not-found pages are pretty annoying.
    I mentioned why I use frames. As for the header, yes of course there will be one, I will design a logo but have not done so yet. I mentioned that my site is not on search engines yet and that I'm only letting my friends see it to give input and you people on here to give input. People who would come to my site for it's actual purpose aren't going to think less of it because they can't possibly come to it yet. And the links, yes I know page-not-found pages are annoying... when they are supposed to work that is. But I warned they don't work and I'm building my page. It's like building a house "staircases that lead to nowhere are best left out" isn't true because u must do things in an order. I *could* have made the pages then put those links but I chose to do it how I did so I could get the overall feel for the appearance of my site by having them there to see

    And as for learning html, thanks for the tutorial link, I can always use some more stuff to look at. But I don't *need* it much, I've been complimented for my work on websites many times.

    Thanks all, again any additional input is appreciated

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    "Real" domain

    Thorn,

    If you do plan on setting up the site seriously, you should be able to find a hosting provider that offers a decent amount of storage for a reasonable price, and you usually get extra benefits like server side scripting possibilities, etc. Also, they usually can supply you with a proper domain name.
    I've built a few sites that used as many as 12 different geocities accounts
    Hmmm... sounds like a maintenance nightmare to me...
    But I warned they don't work and I'm building my page.
    Yeah, you did; sorry I missed that.
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    For free hosts you may want to try 57host, which offer ad-free server side scripting for free. My website is hosted there


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