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    Would you eat here?

    I guess the most important question is; if you were new to the area and googled up restaurants, found your way to my website, would you want to come try us out. Wide open to comments and suggestions.

    http://www.dallasfamouschicken.com/

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    As an Englishman, the free gallon of tea looks very tempting, but I would like to see some indication of price.

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    DO YOU DELIVER??? (to Utah I mean)??? I need some of that southern cookin!!!

    As for the website... yeah it does its job, and I wouldn't really recommend a "web 2.0" look for this business, it wouldn't fit. Don't change a thing. (Well, your contact form could use some validation cuz I just sent a blank form)

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    If the food is as handmade as it looks like on the photo I definitely would come. However, as a web designer I would definitely not give you a grade “A” for your website.

    First and foremost: Tables are not meant to create a page layout! This was a common method about 15 years ago but we’re in the 21st century now, my friend. Semantic HTML and CSS layouts are the current thing.

    From a designer’s point of view I’d use the “corporate font” as on the photo in the top right for the site title, too. Also, Comic Sans is not a nice font for continuous text. At least it looks very amateurish to me because I’ve seen it so often (mis)used by amateurs on amateur websites (and I consider a business website as professional business presentation, not as amateur playground, so it should kinda reflect that in terms of design). And in this case I mean the negative connotation of “amateur” (people that do things for fun and don’t care to do them right at the same time). If you don’t wanna be considered as such then use some font that carries much more of a professional feel that matches the site design. I could imagine some serif font here such as Georgia (with Times New Roman/Times as substitutes). You can use the Comic font for the sidebar text as this looks a little like hand written and would fit there.

    Also on the home page you should actually use several paragraphs for the paragraphs, not just one paragraph with line breaks. This, again, ist part of the semantic approach. Paragraphs of text should be separate paragraphs and they should have some top and bottom margin to make reading easier and more pleasing. As a positive thing I like how you have used the right words for the links (e. g. “menu” to link to the menu rather than “click here” which would say nothing about the link).

    The menu could have a little more order – in position, dimensions of the boxes, and in color, that is. Currently it’s just so much information, I don’t know where to look first. Good design always includes wise use of colors and effects to draw attention to the right thing on the page. See the attached image where the food is sorted by importance (just as example as I don’t know what’s important for you) and the main food is highlighted with the rectangle. Also the information is structured much cleaner by indenting the related info. You can also use a different color (lighter brown for less important info or something like that) and different font size to indicate importance of a word. You could simplify it even further by having each option on one line only (i. e. breakfast platter options each on its own line).

    And see how the box with the red border draws your attention? That should be used for special offers only so it stands out and points people to something you want them to buy. If everything is special nothing is special anymore. And if it’s too confusing to read a menu people will rather go away than making an effort to find out what you have.

    I don’t have the time to go into further detail right now. Start with this and then we’ll see.

    Oh and please remove that animated image at the bottom and those rainbow colors. That’s absolutely not matching and definitely way too far off of current web design approaches.
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    The thing which I'm most concerned about is that some of the pictures of only your food are ridiculously unappetitizing. I'm sure some of these are due to the fact that the color temperature is very low, but others are just strange, like that burger which is overflowing and has grease on the side. I would be very frightened for my health.

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    Who cares about health when you're eating southern food??!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    From a designer’s point of view I’d use the “corporate font” as on the photo in the top right for the site title, too. Also, Comic Sans is not a nice font for continuous text. At least it looks very amateurish to me because I’ve seen it so often (mis)used by amateurs on amateur websites (and I consider a business website as professional business presentation, not as amateur playground, so it should kinda reflect that in terms of design). And in this case I mean the negative connotation of “amateur” (people that do things for fun and don’t care to do them right at the same time). If you don’t wanna be considered as such then use some font that carries much more of a professional feel that matches the site design. I could imagine some serif font here such as Georgia (with Times New Roman/Times as substitutes). You can use the Comic font for the sidebar text as this looks a little like hand written and would fit there.
    That whole paragraph can be summed up with this link.

    Agreed with all the other comments, especially Cyan's about just making the food look more appetizing. Yes, it is Southern food and yes, it is deep fried into oblivion, but there's a way to photograph it so it looks more tasty. It's the deciding factor for me--if the food looks appealing, I'll want to eat there.
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    That whole paragraph can be summed up with this link.
    I guess they couldn't pay the bills.

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    I like the size of the font but not the font itself. I also found the online menu to be very colorful but not easy to read at all. It is good that is printable. I think the photos are good.

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    Thanks to all for taking the time to look an offer their opinions. I tried some different fonts but didn't care for how they looked and went back to Comic Sans. Then this weekend while looking at a website I realized I liked the font, checked the code to see what it was, tried it on my site and liked it. So I'll go with the Trebuchet MS (from one of Vincent's fonts to another, hmm). It is easier to read and does give the site a cleaner look.

    I've not been to thrilled with the food pics either, but I don't think they are that bad. I have been meaning to try somemore when I get the time though.

    Even I thought I had gone abit over board on the menu and I've toned it down abit. Still need to do somemore work on it though.

    Ah yes the contact form; I got lazy and just copied the form from my original site. It was generated by Hostmonster's page builder wizard and is the only part of my site that won't validate. I've been surfing around looking at properly written forms and hope to soon replace it with one written by me.

    I actually tried doing the site tableless but ran into some margin issues between IE and every other browser so I used the table since it would render the same in all browsers. At the time I didn't know I could just use a separate style sheet for IE. Maybe someday when I have the time I'll try and redo it tableless, we'll see.

    CyanLight; that "hamburger" is actually a country ham and egg biscuit. The salt content of country ham is measured in percent...yes, very frightening for one's health. But oh so good.

    Again, thanks all. I think the site is a little better for it already.

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    Yeah, Trebuchet does look a bit better. Maybe you can tweak with the font weights too.

    Um, yeah, I'm sure it is...*hides pathetic bacon sandwich and pulls out a double-chocolate bar* I have no idea how the term biscuit could be applied to something which is very obviously ham and egg (that happens to look like cheese, but never mind) put in between two buns, but alright. I still think you could improve the quality of picture by messing with the color settings, at little, though. At the moment they have a grey quality to them, and grey = AAAH to me.

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    It looks very 1999, to be honest. For example Animated gifs, the Favicon very mono-chromatic, solid bg, regular square, poor quality. If you're not good with photoshop hire somone, for like 20-30 bucks get a nice logo made, add some rounded corners.

    Add form validation to the contact us portion. I see you're using an outside service to send emails, I wouldnt do that, it's much easier to just create a simple php script, add your form validations, captcha's etc.

    A lot of people are accustomed to just clicking something on the header to get to the main page, for example, navigating the site, I clicked the big text saying, "DALLAS" To my utter frusteration, it was plain text, do us a favor and make it into a link as well, to take you to the home page.

    And don't be afraid to use stock images of food, you dont have to claim it's yours but it makes it very professional looking, and appetizing.

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    I went to check out the picks but I must be late. the food is all eaten or just aboout to be.

    I am not a designer but the style does looks like it is due for a refresh/upgrade. I like that the menus show what the food is. more content related to food and atmosphere, is needed I think.

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    Since I live only five miles away, I'll be there sometime in the next two weeks!

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    looks great! id eat there im gettin hungry now


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