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    The new OwT PHP Contact Form website

    I used a free css template I found. I know it has some html errors I am planning on fixing those, most are <br> instead of <br /> type errors.

    Just wondering what y'all thought. I removed the old site, so If you looked and remember what it looked like before, before and after comments would be nice too I hope this is a big improvement.

    http://owtphpform.co.cc

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    Quote Originally Posted by owt200x View Post
    I used a free css template I found. I know it has some html errors I am planning on fixing those, most are <br> instead of <br /> type errors.

    Just wondering what y'all thought. I removed the old site, so If you looked and remember what it looked like before, before and after comments would be nice too I hope this is a big improvement.

    http://owtphpform.co.cc

    Barry "OwT"
    install webdeveloper extension for firefox and use tools -> validate html, to validate the page step by step starting with first error:

    http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...pform.co.cc%2F

    for example I guess that if you remove <center> will get rid of first two errors because first will rise the second. So fix and revalidate untill you finish,

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    I know it has the errors, and im going to fix those. I was needing critics for the layout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owt200x View Post
    I know it has the errors, and im going to fix those. I was needing critics for the layout.
    I don't know,
    layout it's fine in my opinion, I don't like light green bars from background and I would like the width of the page to be larger, but this is a matter of taste, pesonal opinion.
    At this width it looks ok in 800x600.

    best regards

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    I can't say that I'm a big fan of the color scheme, but like oesxyl said that's a matter of personal opinion.

    It certainly looks better that the original.

    One suggestion: style your forum to match the look of the rest of the site. As it is, it looks like the user has navigated to another site. http://phpbb.com has knowledge base articles on creating a custom theme.

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    ill check the css out to make it wider, I didn't like the green either, but of all the templates I downloaded, this one had a better layout for what I wanted. I was thinking more of a dark blue color scheme.

    I will work on the forum too, one step at a time though. Thanks for the input.

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    I feel like the font is the size of a pin head, can you bump it up for us? Some parts are just REALLY small. All of it, especially the tabs.

    I think the header leaves something to be desired, but its a simple site with a simple purpose. Perhaps you can give it something a little more than just text, or at least style the text to give it some extra meaning.

    I like the green, but I think theres just too much on my screen. If you get it to stretch, then I think it will be better, but also perhaps you can soften the background a little by fading it or something?

    I think you can work with the text to emphasize your doing this for donations, particularly for your shelter. There is a search engine out there, not sure what its called but my friend uses it, and a certain percentage of the ad revenue goes to a charity or organization of your choice. People like that idea, I think you can push it a lot stronger to get more people to donate.

    Yes the forum matching would be good, but perhaps a whole forum like that is overkill? I mean, you are more likely to get fed up dealing with possible spam. Perhaps it would be easier to use your contact form to email you instead of a forum. If you find yourself getting a lot of response, then perhaps a forum could be useful. However a forum without a community is like a DVD case without a disc. Its just an empty shell, and can give the impression that nobody uses the script if the post counts are really low. I also think that a contact form is not likely to have nearly so many updates as something like Wordpress or so. Just my thoughts on that.

    I'm going to get picky, but I don't like the link tabs. The rollover state is just hard to read, with the white on light green. Perhaps if the font was bolded and larger, but still I think the color change is bad. Perhaps another color?

    One last thing, in regards to the download, there isn't really any basic instructions on how to use it. I know...anyone should be able to use it without much trouble if they've used PHP before, but that could also save you a lot of trouble with simple questions from people who haven't opened a tar.gzip before or who don't look at the code before checking for the config.
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    thx jeremywilken, Ill change out the font size and make it bigger and a different color. I will also make the BG color a little lighter for now, dif color later. I will change out the forums tab for an instruction page, btw instructions are included with the download

    thanks for the input

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    OK, I downloaded a new template, hopefully its better than the green blob one. I think its better, anyway. I also removed the forum menu link and put an instruction menu link.

    please tell me this is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by owt200x View Post
    OK, I downloaded a new template, hopefully its better than the green blob one. I think its better, anyway. I also removed the forum menu link and put an instruction menu link.

    please tell me this is better
    yes is better, but is invalid markup too, validate and fix,
    and put the donation button in a visible place.

    best regards

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    Agreed on both points. It's better and I would definitely move the 'Donate' button - if people don't scroll down they won't see it and won't donate.

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    I like the new design better as well but you should know that this template's menu structure breaks at small resolutions or small browser sizes. You may want to add a min-width to the page or something.

    Here's what I see in FF2 when I drag the window size in a bit causing the menu to wrap. I have to mouseover the menu items to even be able to see them since they blend in with the background:
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    I really would imagize (my word!) your title. Large text sizes get screwed around by ClearType.

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    im going to be looking at different css templates which have a better menu.

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    OK NOW!!!! I think I found the css template I'm going to stick with. There are still a few errors because of the xhtml but im going to fix those. This should be alot better.


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