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    General Gaming Planet - Requesting a Review

    I have many websites. My most successful website is General Gaming Planet. I just redesigned it on December 31, 2007, and I have been looking for reviews. So, please let me know what you think of my newly redesigned website and give me tips and advice on how to make it better.

    http://www.generalgamingplanet.com
    http://www.ggpweb.net (this domain might not work)

    So, please let me know what you think. By the way, if you have a problem with the red on the right being too bright, I just want to let you know that I've heard that before.

    WARNING: This website is best when viewed in Mozilla Firefox. Internet Explorer will distort some HTML output for my website. So, if you're viewing it in Internet Explorer and you see some problems, check it in Firefox before you start criticizing it.

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    I was going to review your site, then I saw this in your code.

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    <!-- GGP does not believe in DOCTYPEs or code validation, so no DOCTYPE has been or will be provided for this website. -->
    So, I don't believe in reviewing sites that disregard web standards so blatantly.
    http://www.whitehillphotography.com - Murfreesboro, TN Photographer

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    The graphics and layout are good. The only thing I would like to see is a clickable 'G' where you have the banner to take me to the home page. Not absolutely necessary just something I like to see. The only other problem I have is the same as brett7481. A disregard for standards will undoubtedly come back to bite you when more people are attracted to your site and encounter a seemingly poorly constructed website rendered in their web browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legohalflife2ma View Post
    WARNING: This website is best when viewed in Mozilla Firefox. Internet Explorer will distort some HTML output for my website. So, if you're viewing it in Internet Explorer and you see some problems, check it in Firefox before you start criticizing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by brett7481 View Post
    I was going to review your site, then I saw this in your code.

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    <!-- GGP does not believe in DOCTYPEs or code validation, so no DOCTYPE has been or will be provided for this website. -->
    So, I don't believe in reviewing sites that disregard web standards so blatantly.
    Enough said.

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    Hah, I don't think I've ever actually laughed out loud at this forum before but I was giggling for a few minutes after reading this post

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    <!-- GGP does not believe in DOCTYPEs or code validation, so no DOCTYPE has been or will be provided for this website. -->
    I can honestly say nothing has summed up what I hate most about amateur coders more than that snippet.

    What do you mean you don't believe in DOCTYPEs or code validation? What do you believe in?

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    Using tables for layout....

    Neither of your comment forms (signup for a plan nor complaint form) has any field validation....

    The contact admin form has some validation but it's not graceful in its error display...

    The footer is misaligned on the BLogs page... (in FF)

    And are you really developing a mod for HL1? Cuz, like, HL2 has been out for a few years now

    Image slicing....

    There's a secret "adverstising" link that can be clicked in the horizontal menu bar but it has no label....

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    I gotta say, standards and potentially not working for over 70&#37; of web users aside, that has to be one of the ugliest websites I've ever seen.

    I'd like to offer some constructive criticism but honestly, there's nothing about it that I like.
    The button sizes and header font-size seem to suggest that you're aiming for the sight-impaired crowd but your main body text is all scrunched up with the line-height only being a pixel or 2 greater than the font-size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett7481 View Post
    I was going to review your site, then I saw this in your code.

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    <!-- GGP does not believe in DOCTYPEs or code validation, so no DOCTYPE has been or will be provided for this website. -->
    So, I don't believe in reviewing sites that disregard web standards so blatantly.
    +1


    <!-- This message satisfies the 5 character rule. -->

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    Exclamation Responses For You All

    As you can imagine, I have a lot to say. Just so you guys know, I only just turned 14 years old a short time ago, so I'm obviously a good web developer for my age if I know PHP and HTML well enough to create my website the way I did. Please just keep that in mind.

    First of all, to answer all of you on the exclusion of a DOCTYPE, it is because when I added a DOCTYPE to my website, it gave all of the tables cellpadding like it thought it knew what it was doing. So, I didn't feel like tweaking my code more just to so that I can have one lousy line of code in my source code (I'm referring to the DOCTYPE here), so I excluded the DOCTYPE and just said, "Screw it."

    Second of all, the Advertising page is not meant to be right out there and in your face. I use Google AdSence so I don't really care about the Advertising page or the system that I devised for it, so I just kind of put it in the website without making it really that noticeable.

    In response to NancyJ, it's nice to see that you think that my website looks worse than this website(link) and every other sucky website that ever existed in the history of the cosmos. Obviously, my website is not the worst website template ever. It just isn't what you like. Not everyone likes the same type of look in a website, so don't go around acting like everyone has your same exact viewpoint on things. There is some constructive criticism for you since you didn't have any for me.

    In response to Fumigator, 1. I don't think image slicing is a bad thing (if I'm thinking of image slicing correctly). 2. I know that Half-Life 2 and the episodes have been out for a while but Half-Life 1 is more fun to MOD for and Black Mesa brings back some memories for me. 3. The website is still being worked on so not everything will be perfect, but thanks for pointing out the footer problem to me. 4. I can see that you are one of those advocates for DIVs, right? Let me just say that tables work just as well for making layouts so why does it matter what codes you use to make a layout as long as it looks the way it should and works the way it should? I could simply design my whole template just using <br> tags, but if it looks the way I want it to, then who gives a crap. Also, please explain to me what you meant by Form validation and why it matters to you. I have two ideas of it and I want to know which one you were thinking of.

    In response to Andrew Johnson, I'm not being amateur by putting the Anti-DOCTYPE "snippet" in my source code, I'm simply stating my frustration about how the DOCTYPE tried to add cellpadding to tables which isn't its job. Also, I feel that having a validated site doesn't matter at all as long as the website looks the way I meant for it to look. In my opinion, validation is for old-school strict web designers who think conformity on the web is important and I support creativeness in web design.

    In response to knight fyre, thank you for your kind compliments. And maybe now, because of how you suggested adding a DOCTYPE to me instead of yelling it in my face and calling me an amateur because of it, I might add a DOCTYPE to my website and try to validate it and find out why it adds extra cellpadding to my tables. Happy, guys?

    So, I thank you for those who gave me helpful tips, and I look down upon those who think that conformity is an essential element for web development.
    -Thank you.

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    You may want to google the meaning of conformity. Is creating a standard look for your website across multiple browsers conforming to something?

    I understand you're 14 so you're going to be upset about any type of negative comments directed at you - however if you put your ego aside you might actually learn something on these forums.

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    My apologies. I thought you put your website up for critique because you wanted honest opinion about its layout, content, and coding. Had I known you just wanted people to give you a big thumbs up on a job well done I would have refrained.

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    I don't want everyone to tell me I did a good job. I just didn't know my website sucked that much is all.

    About the conformity thing, I didn't mean it as the website looking the same across all browsers. When I said conformity, I meant "every website's code having the same exact elements as the other." By conformity I mean (for example): every website not being designed with tables, every website using a DOCTYPE, every website using PHP instead of ASP, etc. So, when I said that I don't think conformity is necessary in web design, I meant that I don't think that every website should have the exact same principals for design; each website should be designed the way that the designer best sees fit for it.

    Now, I'm going to take Andrew Johnson's advice and put my ego aside. So, I kindly ask that someone (or multiple people) make a list of the problems that they have with the website and please post it in this thread. I will look over the problems that you have, maybe ask a few questions, and try to fix some of those problems and ask you what you think of the site afterward. And, don't think of it as a 14-year-old's website because, if you do, then you won't hit it as hard and I'll never know how to bring my website up-to-speed. So, be honest but be helpful.

    I'm sorry I got mad at some of you guys, but this comment just discouraged me a lot:
    Quote Originally Posted by NancyJ
    I gotta say, standards and potentially not working for over 70% of web users aside, that has to be one of the ugliest websites I've ever seen.

    I'd like to offer some constructive criticism but honestly, there's nothing about it that I like.

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    How did it discourage you? Do you enjoy knowing that 70&#37; of users won't view your site the way you intended? Does it make you feel cool and non-conformist-like?

    Realistically kid, there's a reason people advise against the use of tables in layout design. It is because they load slower. It's not an opinion it's a fact. Also a LOT of websites use ASP instead of PHP I don't know which internet you've been using.

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    Ok. at 14 I could do stuff like this too. I think everything I did back then looks like crap. This isn't saying your stuff is crap, but that you know the basics. Its a process of growth and maturity in design, development, and skill. Your age does not matter, because nobody besides you will know this on your site (and maybe the friends you refer to it). If you are making a website intended for the general public, it doesn't matter who you are or what you can do, you have to be able to do what is BEST for those who will view your site.

    What we say here is on a level of professional advice. The majority of the people who post here do this for a living, so when they have an opinion it carries the weight of years of experience. When you do something like your message about DOCTYPE, it is saying to those of us who want to review your site (which you asked for) that you know everything better than what we know. You are asking for our help, so when people with much more experience in the professional world say something, it should be helpful. I apologize if some of the comments were a bit rude sounding, but so was your message about DOCTYPE.

    Thanks for saying you will put the ego aside. I think its great that you can develop at such a young age. But lets just move on.

    The site review:
    I think the best thing you can do visually is to reduce the red scheme. Its just hard to read, since such a large amount of red/black/white its definitely the hardest on the eyes. You rely on graphics too much. You can do a lot of this without large graphical banners. The site is just too heavy on the images loading time. My other comments have been noted, so I will end with that.
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    Let me say something about the issue with the doc type and code validation. When you don't put a doc type and/or use valid code, the browser just guesses on what you might have wanted. So if you test in only one browser, you'll tweak your code for that one version of the browser and how it's rendering engine guesses.

    Why do we think doc types and validation are important?
    1) It reduces work on your side because glitches are much less likely to happen since the browser isn't guessing on the type of the document.
    2) 90&#37; of your issues when dealing with multiple browsers and devices go away when you use a doc type and valid code since again there isn't any guessing.
    3) A lot of us on here do programming where you can't just do whatever you want. If you decide you don't like the way the syntax or rules are in most programming languages, it just won't work period.
    4) When you do have an issue, it is 100x easier for someone to help you when the code is valid because then it is well formed and easier to understand what is going on without lots of work.

    As much as IE can annoy me at times, you can't just ignore it. As Nancy mentioned, a majority of the web surfers use it. But even if that isn't enough, what about the people that use Safari or Opera?

    You don't have to use like XHTML 1.1 or 1.0, HTML 4.01 is fine as long as the code validates with the doc type.

    How you can improve look wise:

    I think it would help if the left buttons weren't so big. Plus when the image changes on the hover, don't move the text, just make it turn white.

    Also in your welcome message, use paragraphs, that is just a huge blob of text. I didn't want to read it because of that.
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