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    Seeking site reviews

    Hi everyone:

    I'm requesting reviews and feedback on my web site.

    Design and functionality and anything else you feel should be addressed.

    http://www.waterfallrecordings.com

    Thanks in advance,
    mstevenson
    mstevenson@waterfallrecordings.com

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    I immediately thought "MS FrontPage" ... but it's not FP?

    My personal opinion ... I always hate the WC3 validation buttons.
    Visitors don't really care, but good XHTML and CSS is important.

    Very 1999 look to it ... with a name like "Waterfall Recordings", I think
    you could really have a lot more creative fun with it. Music related sites
    even benefit from Flash and perhaps an embedded Flash Player, for some
    streaming song samples.

    Also, all of the elaborate copyright dates, permissions, privacy ...
    these are all things pretty much assumed, and rather meaningless.

    Content-wise, you've provided information that visitors may be interested in.
    That's the main point of having the website.

    You have so much potential for a creatively designed site, I just think
    it's rather old fashioned and plain. You should look for some inspiration on
    www.csszengarden.com or some other "CSS inspirational" sites.

    But for content, I'll give you a thumbs-up.

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    It looks very plain/dull.

    Also, your server's sending a different content-type header (text/html) than the meta tag. The former has presidence over the ladder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlseim View Post
    I immediately thought "MS FrontPage" ... but it's not FP?

    My personal opinion ... I always hate the WC3 validation buttons.
    Visitors don't really care, but good XHTML and CSS is important.

    Very 1999 look to it ... with a name like "Waterfall Recordings", I think
    you could really have a lot more creative fun with it. Music related sites
    even benefit from Flash and perhaps an embedded Flash Player, for some
    streaming song samples.

    Also, all of the elaborate copyright dates, permissions, privacy ...
    these are all things pretty much assumed, and rather meaningless.

    Content-wise, you've provided information that visitors may be interested in.
    That's the main point of having the website.

    You have so much potential for a creatively designed site, I just think
    it's rather old fashioned and plain. You should look for some inspiration on
    www.csszengarden.com or some other "CSS inspirational" sites.

    But for content, I'll give you a thumbs-up.
    No, It's not FP - it's all coded using Arachnophilia - no templates.

    As for the '1999 look', I'll check out the sites that you listed. My reason for the 'plain' look is because it is primarily a business site; however, I'll try and wrap my head around the concept of a 'fresher look', but no flash pages and I don't want a 'MySpace template look'.

    As for what people assume: I'd prefer to state rather than assume, but I do appreciate your thoughts on that subject.

    Now I'll check into the pages you suggested!

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by croatiankid View Post
    It looks very plain/dull.

    Also, your server's sending a different content-type header (text/html) than the meta tag. The former has presidence over the ladder.
    I'll check with my server regarding the content-type header.

    Thanks,
    mstevenson

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    What I mean by copyright is ...
    You have copy rights for your site whether it's stated or not,
    that's automatic. It you discovered mis-use of your material,
    it would be up to you to pursue the matter. It's usually a civil matter.

    http://publishing.wsu.edu/copyright/...pyright/#_edn2

    Making a big deal out of it on the bottom of a website, with multiple
    lines, a bunch of years shown, etc. does not really have a warm and
    inviting feeling to it. Showing the current year is a nice way for someone
    to see that the site has at least been updated within the year.

    Perhaps you might want to do something like www.amazon.com does
    at the bottom of their site ... it's there if someone wants to read it.

    I personally don't like the "Web2.0" Templates that many businesses use.
    With your site, I just think you have an opportunity to be a bit more creative.
    Think a little bit outside the box ... and perhaps hire a professional graphic
    artist to provide something really interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by croatiankid View Post
    It looks very plain/dull.

    Also, your server's sending a different content-type header (text/html) than the meta tag. The former has presidence over the ladder.
    I like to look of your site. Just want to mention something. The footer on your site isn't staying at the bottom on a few of your pages. The psd2xhtml is okay (footer-wise). (Not trying to 'get back at you' because you said my site looks very plain. You've got me re-appraising the look of my site again and that's a good thing!)

    I'll going to do a htaccess fix to correct the header problem.

    mlseim:
    Thanks for the info regarding copyright!

    Anyway, thanks
    mstevenson
    Last edited by mstevenson; 05-22-2007 at 03:51 PM.

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    I've got to agree...if you want an honest opinion. My first move would be for the red X in the top right corner.

    Google "Good Web design tactics" ... and download a firefox extension called " Fire Bug"...and you can pretty much find a site you like and "clone it" by looking at their CSS/HTML>
    Random Fact of the day: 500 million years ago Waves were 10,000 foot high due to the moon being so much closer.

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    Hi.

    Just a quick thing. Your title, "WaterFall Recording Studios in Mi." makes little sense to me. Shouldn't it be more like...

    WaterFall Recording Studios

    Michegan, USA

    Or something like it?

    HTH.
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    By the way. The USA is only a small portion of the world. This is NOT a have a go at the USA thread! I *assume* that 'MI' stands for Michigan, but maybe not. Milan?

    http://www.fas.org/news/reference/probert/GJ.HTM

    I'm in the UK BTW. All I'm saying is if you put a location on the screen, please make it clear exactly where it is for *everyone*.
    Last edited by Collywobbles; 05-24-2007 at 08:15 PM.
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    I agree with Collywobbles that perhaps the "Michigan" should be secondary to your company name. Not that it isn't important if you are looking for walk-in traffic... just doesn't need to be part of the headline type.

    There is a lot on your site, but it does look plain. Even if you changed the background color and link colors, this could help. For example, if you made the background color a very pale tan and then made your links a complementary color like brown or olive green, you could give the site a little bit of design without a major upgrade. Although I think you'll probably want to make the site more visual eventually, getting your content online first is a good step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mstevenson View Post
    I like to look of your site. Just want to mention something. The footer on your site isn't staying at the bottom on a few of your pages. The psd2xhtml is okay (footer-wise). (Not trying to 'get back at you' because you said my site looks very plain. You've got me re-appraising the look of my site again and that's a good thing!)

    I'll going to do a htaccess fix to correct the header problem.

    mlseim:
    Thanks for the info regarding copyright!

    Anyway, thanks
    mstevenson
    I'm aware of that, thanks for your concern though!

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    To me it looks cheap - like one of those 'scam' websites like earn $1000 dollars a week in only 10 minutes per day! or Lose 10lbs in 1 week!!!

    If you look at sites like that you'll notice many similar design aspects - black text on a white background, lots of bold, highlights in red and unstyled links.

    Also clicking on the icons in your header take me to several identically styled sites each with a different company name in the header which would be confusing for the visitor

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    To The Prodigy:
    ‘red X in the to right corner’?? Do you mean the icon in the corner?

    To Karen S. Garvin and Collywobbles:
    You are right; should be geared towards the global market instead of just North America. I’ll point this out to the site owner.

    To NancyJ:
    Reply: I hear what you’re saying, but, when this site was reviewed by designers who work on business sites back when I was utilizing a light-tan parchment background the majority advised me to use basic white background.

    Regarding the different header icons: good point. I’ll think over how the 'other sites' will be handled:make them completely separate site designs or incorporate them back into the main site.

    I’ve noticed that different forums seem to attract coders whose outlook coincides with each particular forum. That’s understandable. At some forums the comments have been “use a white background – it is a business site”, some forums it has been “make it colorful, blue-on-orange or something wild and artsy”. One forum had suggested (and I did infact use) a left-side nav bar as well as the top nav bar that is under the header. A number of forum reviews made no comment on the two nav bars. One particular forum was totally against!

    I had uploaded a page that used a two-column layout so that the site owner could let me know what he thought. He said that he preferred the single-column look.

    http://www.waterfallrecordings.com/3columns.html
    is a slightly different look. Any feedback on the body-look of this page? (Excluding the background color, header and footer).

    I do want to thank everyone for their thoughts.


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