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Old 09-16-2005, 11:31 AM   PM User | #1
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suggestions for improvement please.

Hi people,

I am building a new site for a client and need your help to make it looks less straight-lined/boxy.

I am already making the header graphic full page width for 1024res but need ideas on colours. Those here are from their present-day site but, I want to convey more of a feeling for their premises. So I need a combination of colours which say high-quality, bright, airy, spacious, contemporary.

I was thinking of a few but, when put together they don't 'say' those keywords.

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Old 09-16-2005, 12:06 PM   PM User | #2
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too much bright and sharp colour for my taste, if you're going to be showing a lot of full colour pics like that, I'd want to keep the rest of the site muted and sober, and try and keep the pictures either seperated or montaged together and retouched to have the same sorts of hues, brightnesses, contrast

less is more I guess

as for boxy and straight lines, I see what you worrying about, I don't have a design bone inmy body but some strong and clean text should help to draw the eye away form the lines and boxes, again more sober colours that go together will stop it the different parts of the page jumping out from each other, a few sites that show symapthetic pallettes of web friendly colours I think
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:18 PM   PM User | #3
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I, too, was born without one of them

I see what you mean about blending the colours more. They are a bit stark. I guess I'll put togather the new header and see what colours are in it, so that I can use simlilar ones in the page.

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Old 09-16-2005, 01:30 PM   PM User | #4
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nick someone elses colour scheme that works init

or actually chose one from a palette, you really can't just fling them onto the page

that I do know
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:30 PM   PM User | #5
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Few things:

1) the header should extend the entire width of the site.
A good solution for this is to create a simple background image that can be set as the cells background (repeated), then place your header on top of it. This will remove the grey backing to the right of the header.

2) there are too many pastels on the site. A good website should only use 3 colours max. Then different shades of those colours for mouse over effects or background matting.
One suggestion i would have it pulling a scheme from your header image.
I've noticed you like blue, so a sugestion of te colour scheme would be:
#4FCBD6, #9FAFFF, and #FFFFE5.

That would be two similar blues with the pale yellow.

3) I would get rid of the purple backing on the menu, also set the border width of the menu items to '1px' (it appears like you've done that, but because cells touch the borders get doubled between menu items.

example of solution:

<tr><td style='border: 1px solid #000000;'>menu item</td></tr>
<tr><td style='border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;'>menu item</td></tr>
<tr><td style='border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;'>menu item</td></tr>
<tr><td style='border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;'>menu item</td></tr>
<tr><td style='border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;'>menu item</td></tr>
<tr><td style='border-left: 1px solid #000000; border-right: 1px solid #000000; border-bottom: 1px solid #000000;'>menu item</td></tr>

see how after the first cell you leave out the top border, this will ensure all menu items will have the same border thickness for top,left,bottom,right

4) The 'Welcome' messages acrossed the top of the page look too much like links. Two possible solutions for this would be:
i) change the layout of that cell such that they do not resemble links (maybe by adding a marquee effect).
ii) Actually make them links, pointing to your home page. this will be easy to understand as Welcome would signify 'Home' to the user after first view of the page.

5) the dynamic menu items (with sub menus) do not go away imidiatly after i mouse off them, this is not a huge issue but a little annoying (IMHO)

6) the dynamic menu items overlap the main section, this is only a problem because the main sections bg colour and the menu cell borders are the same colour. Again, i'm just nit picking here but it's a little annoying to me.

7) the menu 'hugs' the left side of the page, this is not wrong. but it does look a little funny to me.
maybe just rmeoving the left side border would work.... making the menu appear as if it is comming from the left side, not hugging it.

all this is just personal opinion. Please feel free not to listen to any of it as we all have our personal preferences when it comes to design.

other than the points listed above, good looking layout.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:10 PM   PM User | #6
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rlemon, thank you for taking the time.

I agree with much of what you have said.

specifically, I have wondered about so many colors and so I am focussing on the menu just now.

The menu does need cosmetic work done. I have considered removing the background color but it breaks the menu into two sections. I can;t think of a way around so help with that would be very good.

I have a new schemme off line so I'll put it up so we can both be looking at the same hash

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heh,

I took it down whilst I did much more work on it.

I have now started a new thread for a site review

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Originally Posted by Tynan
nick someone elses colour scheme that works init

or actually chose one from a palette, you really can't just fling them onto the page

that I do know


sorry just reading on the tips you guys are giveing what does init mean?
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'Isn't it'.

But I can't work out what he means anyway.
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that works Isn't it

lol oooookkkkkk then any body want to turn that into english pleaseeeeeee.
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Could also mean 'doesn't it', or could just be a random ending (such as 'like' etc) I guess, so...

"Steal someone elses colour scheme that works, or actually chose one from a palette. You really can't just fling them onto the page; that I do know."
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Could also mean 'doesn't it', or could just be a random ending (such as 'like' etc) I guess, so...

"Steal someone elses colour scheme that works, or actually chose one from a palette. You really can't just fling them onto the page; that I do know."
Ain't that the truth
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