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Old 10-12-2004, 08:41 PM   PM User | #1
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DevEdge is gone?

It seems like one of the best places for documentation of browsers, and JavaScript in particular, is gone. Is it temporarily, permanent or just a glitch? I don't know, but I've almost never seen Netscape offline. And it isn't now, either. Just DevEdge is missing.


Edit: AOL have resored DevEdge! Yay!

Now let's just hope they give the Mozilla Foundation the rights to the content of DevEdge before it goes AWOL again...
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Old 10-12-2004, 09:03 PM   PM User | #2
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Can't find it either, acts like it never existed except Google still has it cached.
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http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/mitch...pe_devedg.html
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Wow why the heck would they remove it? Certainly can't be the bandwidth costs, considering how cheap web hosting/bandwidth is these days. Even if they can no longer update the content due to human costs, keeping it up with a notice is still better than simply removing it.
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Old 10-13-2004, 12:07 AM   PM User | #5
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As Mitchell mentioned at the blog entry that hemebond linked, this is probably a misunderstanding between the Netscape staff and Mozilla Foundation. The original thought was that Mozilla Foundation would build up a developer area similar to DevEdge that would take over maintenance and distribution of the relevant documentation and tools when Netscape dropped the browser documentation maintenance. This had not yet been organised, however.
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I've heard that AOL is planning to "relaunch" the Netscape browser and portal so they may be "pruning" areas that they no longer intend to be a part of that.

Since it's AOL in charge of this, I suspect it's not going to have anything to do with developer's interests from now on.
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Old 10-13-2004, 04:35 PM   PM User | #7
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Let's just hope AOL realises that the entire Netscape documentation (from the start, preferably) is important for web developers and thus are prepared to give control over the DevEdge Netscape IP to the Mozilla Foundation.
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Well if AOL remarket netscape, no one will have it as it is part of AOL, like no one wants there internet connections. If the put out no documentation, no one can design sites that work in the new netscape, so users have a crud experience, and leave AOL or leave your site (So in theory oyu could sue for loss of profits).


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I've heard that AOL is planning to "relaunch" the Netscape browser and portal so they may be "pruning" areas that they no longer intend to be a part of that.
i've just caught up with the news (tho i'm sure i was using the sidebar only a dew days ago - musta been my imagination LOL).

anyway, Roy, I read on CNET that AOL are planning to launch their own browser. However, it won't be based on NS or even FF. They're gonna use a stripped down IE. Eh? That doesn't make sense to me, especically given they've got a browser of their own and that M$ are a competitor. Makes no sense. Maybe that's part of the apparent "loss" in communication between Mozilla and AOL .... hmmm *strokes chin*
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I never did think the people at AOL were rational so another irrational act is no real surprise.
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Well, we already knew Netscape the browser company and Netscape the browser as dead - or at least dead ends. Nothing has changed that wasn't evident two years ago. Whatever happens with the Netscape brand is nigh irrelevant for the future of the web. But that they would remove all the past documentation, all the web developer resources that was DevEdge without even preparing for the Mozilla Foundation take it over from there, is something I didn't even think AOL would do. And neither did the Mozilla people I believe.
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that they would remove all the past documentation, all the web developer resources that was DevEdge without even preparing for the Mozilla Foundation take it over from there, is something I didn't even think AOL would do. And neither did the Mozilla people I believe.
obviously, clearing out their servers for their forthcomin JScript documentation LOL. never did like AOL anyway.

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do you know what's even crazier about the dissappearance of our beloved (steady on) DevEdge is that Netscape still have pages like this one live: NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR FOR WINDOWS RELEASE 3.0

what gives, eh?!
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Probably different server...
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