The Hutchison Effect

Arctic Fox · 07-12-2003, 12:21 AM

Does anyone here have any first-hand information about this?

I've googled this till my eyes are about to pop out...

Brain... needs more... information...

Graeme Hackston · 07-12-2003, 01:36 PM

I've never heard of this so I googled it. Now I don't know what to make of it.

It would be easy to write this off as a hoax. Having said that I do know that the Canadian government has a history of shutting down technical innovation. The Avro Arrow is a shining example of this.

http://archives.cbc.ca/300c.asp?id=1-75-275

I have a bit of history with aviation, my father is an aircraft engineer. He worked for a couple of years in the same complex where the Arrow was developed 5 years after the project was terminated.

Many believe the Arrow was destroyed because of pressures from the American government. At the time the cold war was nearing its peak. It's not much of a stretch to believe that the US would have seen the production of possibly the worlds fastest interceptor in such a multi-cultural and unguarded place as Toronto as a security risk. Maybe Mr. Hutchisons experiments are the victim of similar pressures.

At any rate it is interesting, thanks for enlightening me.

raf · 07-12-2003, 02:27 PM

Go to home.37.com and type in "hutchinson effect"

You'll get more info then you'd like on it.

Or visit The Masters Site
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTri...8863/main.html

Ben@WEBProp · 07-18-2003, 10:03 PM

I have only read about 1/2 this article, but wouldn't it be possible to levitate a man with this effect? Or not?

The more I think about the intermixing properties with the disregard of Van Der Waals forces, the more I can imaging that by imparting this phenomena on a human with clothes, his/her clothes would intermix with the person's skin. Depending on the penetration amount of the forces, cells from all areas of the body would intermix...not to mention the fact that the lysosomic materials in cells would end up outside of their membranes and when the forces were turned off (assuming that there are no reactions between materials as they are passed by eachother) you would end up with a pile of randomly mixed body cells that are dissolving because of the digestive acids and lysosmic materials that have come in contact with materials outside of their membranes.

Would this theory be correct? Or is it just a Friday?

-Ben

bradyj · 07-18-2003, 10:21 PM

I read a little about this in Physics, and it's an interesting theory to note, and worth watching as progress goes, but not:
'the phenomena are difficult to reproduce with
any regularity. The focus for the future, then, is first to
increase the frequency of occurence of the effects, then to
achieve some degree of precision in their control.'

The logic we studied for this was the Zero Kelvin, or Zero Point Energy as it said in the article. Where atoms are constantly jittering around, if they were to ever be 'cooled' at Zero Kelvin, You would essentially have a piece of matter that contains no, or little form... It could turn to playdo or silly string, or liquid or gas, no one knows. I do not know how the whole effect fits into this theory, though -- but it's a darn good read!

As for everyting else, there is a lot of Conspiracy and a lot of legend in it that I know of. Conspiracy is not necessarily a lie, it was built from somewhere, and governments have been known to halt certian knowledge, control technology, and do hidden experiments, for example:
Nazi Germany Experimentation
US bio-chemical testing (which happened in New York and San Francisco -- the CIA, in doing testing for biochemical warfare, launched a Navy vessel some five miles off San Franicsco and released a 'flu like illness', some 5000 viruses per person, and aimed it at the SF public. Three people died. In New York, the same illness was set in lightbulbs in the NY Subway. No deaths. Military trials were held on the event in 1999, and the outcome is deemed 'not public knowledge'. But it did get a little CNN airtime).
Clone-ing (still technology, and aggressively fought to be held within moral guidelines)

So, yeah, it could be true. And yeah, they could try to hunt them down and hush it up. Government has done that for years on end, so to speak

As an example of other government misuse of power, check out:
http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1998/aug/d04-001.shtml

Area 51, the top secret US Air Force base with a legacy of supposed aliens, was brought up in a lawsuit. The civilian employees were exposed to certain chemicals when they burned nuclear waste in dumps, in the desert -- certain skin ailments and what not. The US government denied the existence of the base until finally Bill Clinton came into office, now they will not admit anything that went on, the lawyer handling the case is required to work alone, and everyone says it didn't happen, but it's on tape and there's common knowledge about it.

Ben@WEBProp · 07-18-2003, 11:08 PM

In thinking in terms of wavelengths, frequency, and that whole bit, do you think that an object cooled to 0 Kelvin would be just a black mass? As you know, light being reflected off of objects that hits our eyes within the color spectrum is then interpreted by our brains as that color. Remembering that at Absolute 0 no molecules move, would that give the notion that no light is being reflected? Would that then result as a black mass, or an invisible mass?

Opinions?

-Ben

Graeme Hackston · 07-19-2003, 12:50 AM

Ben@WEBProp I'm not following you. If I remember correctly K is the measure of temperatures of a pure black radiator being heated. Red is cold and bright blue is hot. Before it's heated the black reflects no light. Wouldn't 0 Kelvin just be the radiator unheated?

Or am I missing your direction entirely?

Ben@WEBProp · 07-22-2003, 12:25 AM

Well, you got part of it.

What I am saying is that if an object was cooled to 0 Kelvin, then it would it be pure black because it reflects no light? Or would it be rendered "invisible" due to the fact that the light that hits it would be at 0K and not moving? The area that is at 0K would be frozen in time, potentially.

Then for that matter, 0 K would be impossible to reach. 0.00001 wouldn't, but absolute 0 would. As light hits the 0K object, energy is transfered (that is, if the collision-theory is correct) to the object. So then the object would have to be constantly cooled. Even if you could constantly cool an object, more and more photons, subatomic particles, and gas molecules would be hitting the 0K object and they themselves would become 0K for the object to remain at 0K (because it is being constantly cooled). Still with me?

Ok, so wouldn't you end up with a super-dense mass once the absolute 0 wore off? Also, wouldn't you get an ever expanding radius of absolute 0? Either reaching 0K would freeze the universe or create a black hole...I think.

Of course this is all personal theory and speculation...I'm only a college freshman and all of this just came out while I was thinking. So don't say I qouted from anyone or anything like that.

Thoughts?

-Ben

Veneficus · 07-22-2003, 10:11 AM

Interesting theory, Ben@webprop. You might want to check out SPACE.com where I read an article recently about a group of scientists that actually did cause light to stop and then restart. I don't think it was a matter of 0 kelvin temperature, but I could be mistaken.

Ben@WEBProp · 07-22-2003, 06:20 PM

Ven-do you have the exact link? I spent a couple minutes looking around and found nothing.

raf · 07-22-2003, 08:06 PM

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Veneficus · 07-23-2003, 09:51 AM

Here's the link, Ben.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...op_010119.html

Roy Sinclair · 07-23-2003, 06:04 PM

If you cooled something to 0K it wouldn't be visible because it would no longer emit any radiation. Shining a light on it would allow it to absorb some of that light energy so it'd no longer be at 0K.

Ben@WEBProp · 07-23-2003, 09:22 PM

Although an object at Absoulute 0 would emit no radiation, we do not see the radiation that comes off an object, we see the light that is reflected off of it. But you do agree that 0K should be impossible to achieve because energy from photons and other types of radiation would hit the object and transfer energy...right?

Any other theories? Like the development of a black hole?

raf · 07-24-2003, 02:01 AM

0 K is very well possible.

The second law of thermodynamics state that there is a constant increase of entrophy. So there is a constant decrease of static/potential energy (heat) and increase of kinetic energy.
This means that space is continuosly cooling down until all energy in transformed into kinetic energy --> 0 K
(but it could verry well be possible that this entropylevel will reach a certain limit at a certain point, and the proces would be reversed)

Development of black holes? If the density of an object (like imploding stars) is high enough, it's gravity will prevent the light from escaping/reflecting. So it verry well posible that the majorety of mass is invisible to us.