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Old 06-02-2011, 01:01 PM   PM User | #1
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Need Investors for Advertisement Enterprise Site 100% Unique IDEA!

Min investment amount is $1000 - If you need to work out a lower investment talk with me.

Looking for around $5,000-$7,000 to get this up off the ground.

Basic Information: The basic idea is letting users register an help them Increase Target Nich Traffic to there site based on the amount of traffic they have already. I can't release no more information until a NDA is signed. The idea is completely unique an would be a huge smash to the market.

Money earned form this site is from advertisement's an pay membership services.

Benefits of Investing:
Give input on the website and come up with newer idea's.
10% income from the site until your investment is paid off an 7% after it's paid off. Up to 2 years after I have paid the investment off.

This is an amazing idea an completely unique nothing out there like it. Pretty much a guaranteed success business.

Risks are as normal with any investment.

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Msn: dangy15@verizon.net
Yahoo: dangy_13
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People can talk to me for lower investments. An yes the more you invest the better percentage you get. the lower the worst. So if you invest $2000 you get double the stats above. If you invest $3000 you get triple the stats i stated above. The rate of return will be rather good. I plan on taking my share an dispersing it until all Investments are paid off.

Also the estimated income for the first year is $30,000-$40,000

There is only 2 slots left.

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Have you written up a business plan? (Or is that what I just read?)
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Have you written up a business plan? (Or is that what I just read?)
I have a business plan, plus a NDA(Non-Discloser-Agreement) that has to be signed also.


Also I'm aware that I have 22 post on this website I mainly use Digital Point Forums

Heres my Itrader for there: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/itrader.php?u=223763

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Pretty much a guaranteed success business.

Risks are as normal with any investment.
Those two sentences pretty much contradict each other. How do you know it's liable to be a success? Have you done any initial user tests, or are you just assuming it will be popular?
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Those two sentences pretty much contradict each other. How do you know it's liable to be a success? Have you done any initial user tests, or are you just assuming it will be popular?
I have done some user testing plus I have advertisements already lined up.

CPA Lead Networks, T.V. Spots, an A business directory list of over 150million users, which have business websites. I'm willing to actually guarantee the last few slot's to be paid off within the first year!

The traffic number generated from these sources are amazing. Them sentences may contradict each other, but just there as people know there are risks involved.
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an A business directory list of over 150million users, which have business websites.
Just one last question. Is that a directory that you have created from existing customers or interested, potential customers, or is that just an acquired from elsewhere list?
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Just one last question. Is that a directory that you have created from existing customers or interested, potential customers, or is that just an acquired from elsewhere list?
Existing customers from a business directory I'm partners on. They would be interested in this as well, as they have business websites. They are potential customers, this is highly targeted for this project. An a lot of these users on this directory list, are willing to spend money.

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one slot is still available.
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I hope you've consulted your "partner" with taking the directory from the company you're "partners on".
As simply taking the directory and using it is stealing, even if your a 'partner on' it, if you use the assets of the company without his consent, your liable to be sued by him on behalf of the company.

Also, it would benefit you to show your calculations and research.
Obviously, since your idea is completely unique, showing the past research you've done on vaguely similar ideas, as well as market research, would not reveal the details of your business.

"$30,000-$40,000" seems like a number you just made up. A real estimate is backed by research. A "business plan" isn't just the idea you've come up with. You should have hundreds of pages of research and analysis that backup your estimate. A proper estimate isn't simply a "$30,000-$40,000" number. The estimate is nothing without context. You should be ready to offer the details behind that estimate, as well as several other numbers based on altering scenarios.

Showing this research (that you should have already completed based on the claims you've made) is a basic step before asking people to sign NDA's and ICRA's.
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I hope you've consulted your "partner" with taking the directory from the company you're "partners on".
As simply taking the directory and using it is stealing, even if your a 'partner on' it, if you use the assets of the company without his consent, your liable to be sued by him on behalf of the company.

Also, it would benefit you to show your calculations and research.
Obviously, since your idea is completely unique, showing the past research you've done on vaguely similar ideas, as well as market research, would not reveal the details of your business.

"$30,000-$40,000" seems like a number you just made up. A real estimate is backed by research. A "business plan" isn't just the idea you've come up with. You should have hundreds of pages of research and analysis that backup your estimate. A proper estimate isn't simply a "$30,000-$40,000" number. The estimate is nothing without context. You should be ready to offer the details behind that estimate, as well as several other numbers based on altering scenarios.

Showing this research (that you should have already completed based on the claims you've made) is a basic step before asking people to sign NDA's and ICRA's.
My partners on that directory have already gave me the ok to use it.

The details an calculations of the income are not a made up number I have tons of research an evidences to prove the income is fairly accurate. Me an my business partners on the directory have already gathered an send out emails based on the basic information. About 30% of the people on the directory have already stated they would use the site onces it built. An 7% would pay monthly to used increased featured.

Also even still the idea is very unique, you will still need the NDA signed as providing research an the income is still under my NDA.

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...About 30% of the people on the directory have already stated they would use the site onces it built. An 7% would pay monthly to used increased featured.

Also even still the idea is very unique, you will still need the NDA signed as providing research an the income is still under my NDA.
You have over 150 million users in your business directory list and 30% said they would be interested. So even if you ONLY asked that 30% [and got 100% of them to 1) respond, and 2) say they would be interested] then you would have had 45,000,000 people sign NDA's before discussing the features of the website, right?

How big are your filing cabinets, anyway?

Or do you only require NDA's from people on web forums?
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You have over 150 million users in your business directory list and 30% said they would be interested. So even if you ONLY asked that 30% [and got 100% of them to 1) respond, and 2) say they would be interested] then you would have had 45,000,000 people sign NDA's before discussing the features of the website, right?

How big are your filing cabinets, anyway?

Or do you only require NDA's from people on web forums?
I did not disclose but what is posted on this thread to them. This way they didn't have to sign a NDA. Just a basic underline of the project which is what is stated here. I will not disclose in depth of any features of the project until a NDA is signed.
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So... what exactly did they say they'd use? I don't see anything in this thread that indicates what your product does, other than "Increase Target Nich Traffic to there [sic] site based on the amount of traffic they have already". And are you saying you honestly received feedback from 45 million businesses? Or did you take a sample of, say, 100 contacts on your list and 30 of those contacts gave you positive response? Your research is starting to look a little bit shaky.
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So... what exactly did they say they'd use? I don't see anything in this thread that indicates what your product does, other than "Increase Target Nich Traffic to there [sic] site based on the amount of traffic they have already". And are you saying you honestly received feedback from 45 million businesses? Or did you take a sample of, say, 100 contacts on your list and 30 of those contacts gave you positive response? Your research is starting to look a little bit shaky.
What I did is the following:

Send a email to 10,000 people out of 10,000 people 30% gave a postive response. Based on this there is a 30% of people who are going to be interested.

My research is based on many other advertisement networks. Plus there is more detail then just the above.


In short its advertisement exchange to increase traffic. But the traffic that is generated to each sites is targeted based on there site niche. But its far more then just advertisement exchange. Website owners come an sign up who already generating traffic. With there traffic it will help them exchange traffic thats has no interested in there site with a user who would be interested in there site.


Also if you wish I can have you sign a NDA an I'll disclose everything to you.

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...About 30% of the people on the directory have already stated they would use the site onces it built. An 7% would pay monthly to used increased featured...
That's not ambiguous. You said it was 30% of the people on that 150+ million user database. That's 45 million users giving a positive response.

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What I did is the following:

Send a email to 10,000 people out of 10,000 people 30% gave a postive response. Based on this there is a 30% of people who are going to be interested...
Now you're saying it's 30% of a sampling from the list - totaling 3,000 users who responded - and you are projecting that to be characteristic of the entire list. Projections and hard numbers are not the same thing - even so far as e-mail surveys can be regarded as reliable (which is another topic entirely).

30% of 150 million != 30% of 10 thousand extrapolated to a 150 million base

If you're already telling "half-truths" (to put it mildly) about this project then why on earth would anyone trust you enough to give you any money?

And I'm still giving you the benefit of the doubt that [you have an actual idea/you ever contacted anyone about it/your alleged contact list even exists].


Based on your research design methods I can make the following claims:

The world population is over 6.92 billion (based on estimates by the US Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/popclockworld.html). 100% of them have openly expressed doubt about the accuracy of your claims. And at least 25% of them think that you're outright lying and trying to run a confidence scheme.

By that, I mean that all four people who have posted responses in this thread so far have said that this sounds questionable, and that I personally think you're trying to run a con game.

Can you convince the world (er, these four people) otherwise?
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