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Old 12-05-2010, 09:57 PM   PM User | #1
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Build a search engine that displays homepages instead of site discriptions

Image a new search engine, when you typein keyword and click search buttom, it comes out a list of sites instead of links.

User don't need to click every link from google/yahoo/bing to see the sites anymore, could save a lot of time.

How's the idea? Can you code it? Please give me a quote.
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Old 12-05-2010, 11:55 PM   PM User | #2
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Is this coding project too hard to be done?

Please give me a clue, thanks!
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:28 AM   PM User | #3
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Google now has this functionality. Do a search with Google then scroll over the magnifying glass to the right. Good idea, but about 2 weeks too late.
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Old 12-06-2010, 01:17 AM   PM User | #4
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Thanks for your input!

I am thinking a engine that displays ten websites on one page not ten links. Better yet, the engine automaticlly show serached sites one by one like a streaming display of sites and you click the one you want to visit.

The pc speed will get faster enough for this to function right I think.

How do you think? Thanks again.
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How about if you let the person flip through the pages being searched using like a frame at the top from the search and you can next and previous through all of the result webpages getting the full page instead of just a snapshot of the top of the page.
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How about if you let the person flip through the pages being searched using like a frame at the top from the search and you can next and previous through all of the result webpages getting the full page instead of just a snapshot of the top of the page.
That is just about what I mean. Sorry for my poor English and web knowledge.

Can you code this engine? How you think about the basic idea? If it's viable, I plan to name it hafind.com.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:09 AM   PM User | #7
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Here's an example of the engine, if you search for gold, the result page will look like this http://hafind.com/1.html

I only put 3 sites on one page, it could be more. When you move the page up and streaming the sites, click the one you are interested and you will see that site in a new window as normal engine. This is a demo, no header and footer but you'll get the idea.

Sure there are flows but the basic idea is a engine displays sites instead of text/links.

Some feedbacks please, I am pretty exited about the idea.

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Old 12-06-2010, 07:45 PM   PM User | #8
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Guys, how about a little honest feedbacks?

Thanks and have a great cold day! Global warming my ***.
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Interesting idea. I would think a more iTunes like interface of flipping through a slideshow would be the ideal interface. The real trick is giving the users enough data to make a decision on what result is best for them, while giving them enough of the design to know what site they're going to.

That said, your two biggest obstacles will be...

1) Server / Disk space. You'll need to scrap the web with bots, and store search results in your own system. That will take a lot of server power. This is by far the biggest issue to overcome.

2) Search algorithm - creating a program that inteprets user intent accurately and displaying the best results will be your second biggest issue.

Both of the above will cost hundreds of thousands to get started. You might be able to build a Proof of concept for a few thousand, but don't expect any success until you iron out number 1 above.
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bcar,

Deeply appreciate your input! Warmed up my heart.

I am a dreamer. Wish I have your web talent.

I wonder why big SEs didn't make it happen yet. They have all the tools you talked.

If we can watch games on tv why need radio? Think about high speed and touch/voice screen pc, why we still need to click SE links one by one to surf the net.

Think about near future, you goto hafind search for flower, it takes data from google/yahoo/bing and put all listed sites in a slidshow. You control the speed and goto the site you like.

In that way, seems we don't need a lot space but fast speed. Seems legal too. We didin't copy SEs content. How do you think?

I don't have the $ but if the idea is good enough, VCs are out there, will you think about to give it a shot?

Anyway, nice talk with you. have a good one!
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You will need a helluva lot more detail/specific plans/market analysis than what you have (not to mention a crack team of wiz kids signed up) to even make a VC turn a head, let alone give you $$. And, you'll have to be able to explain why you think you can go up against Google and have a prayer.

Not to mention, if your idea catches on even remotely, Google can and will quickly adapt its search engine to provide similar capabilities, making your start-up redundant. They did that to counter some innovations Bing brought to the table. Bing hasn't been able to steal much of the market share.

I really can't think of any segment of the world wide web I'd want to compete against LESS than the almighty Google search engine.
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Not to mention, if your idea catches on even remotely, Google can and will quickly adapt its search engine to provide similar capabilities, making your start-up redundant. They did that to counter some innovations Bing brought to the table. Bing hasn't been able to steal much of the market share.

I really can't think of any segment of the world wide web I'd want to compete against LESS than the almighty Google search engine.
Ah, but there's a catch to that, at least in the US.

IF you have a start up, and a patent, google's hands are pretty much bound. One exit strategy would be to force a buyout (of the patent rights) which could be a nice sum, or sue them for patent infringement a la RIM. Both can be very successful strategies. Additionally, if it's a paid service, googles dominant position works against them. There are laws forbidding large companies from simply obliterating competition, especially companies with significant market share.

While google does have a strangle hold, it doesn't mean they're above the law. Startups have every right to try something new if someone else doesn't create it first. See facebook vs. my space.
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Very true. I do wonder how difficult it would be to secure a patent for this kind of idea though. There have been some pretty lame patents enforced in the courts (One I remember is a piece software reads input from any source, and outputs data to any source-- that's about as specific as it got-- which describes just about everything) so it is probably possible.
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Ah, but there's a catch to that, at least in the US.

IF you have a start up, and a patent, google's hands are pretty much bound. One exit strategy would be to force a buyout (of the patent rights) which could be a nice sum, or sue them for patent infringement a la RIM. Both can be very successful strategies. Additionally, if it's a paid service, googles dominant position works against them. There are laws forbidding large companies from simply obliterating competition, especially companies with significant market share.

While google does have a strangle hold, it doesn't mean they're above the law. Startups have every right to try something new if someone else doesn't create it first. See facebook vs. my space.
Google most likely already holds a number of patents on ideas they haven't actually implemented yet as well.
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Holly ****

First time see so many stars!

I think patent or google none matter, a better way to surf is a better way. The technology is here. Why wait?

I am a poor guy that lives in a basement, luck to have CF top guys sharing the idea. If it worth a push, please give a hand.

Make a better engine is the goal, if we can't do it but know how, tell who able to do it. Think about how much time could be saved for the world.

Just my thoughts. Wish all a nice day!
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