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Old 04-29-2003, 01:36 PM   PM User | #1
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Site Critique Please

Hi,
Was referred here by Sparky over at www.awars.com !

Looking for a bit of critique on my latest website

Can you kind people comment please - http://www.phatman.co.uk

But be gentle

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Old 04-29-2003, 02:55 PM   PM User | #2
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Nice!

Basically, a nice layout; I like the logo, clean a simple, yet appealing, though I'd give a bit more room.

Further observations:
  • The color use is a bit plain, although "techie"; the contrast is a bit low on the whole;
  • I'd make the gray rim around the center section equally wide, so the top could be a little less;
  • The sub-text next to the logo might look better underneath it;
  • I like the mouseover effect on the menu buttons, but it might be an idea to change the look of the button accompanying the page viewed as well; either that, or give the pages a stronger, more recognizable caption;
  • Code-wise, it's a shame that you've used tables for layout purposes where CSS would serve much better; related to that are a couple of other issues, one of which is the fixed width: CSS (and tables too, for that matter) would make your layout quite easily adapt to the available window width: always a favorite of mine ;
  • "... physicals access... " (typo in home page);
  • Reconsider center-aligning the text on your homepage: it may look good for a while, but it usually makes for hard reading and is therefore rarely used other then for restaurant menus.

Gentle enough... ?
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Old 04-29-2003, 03:16 PM   PM User | #3
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ooh thanks

ill take alook at your point and post back when done
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Old 04-29-2003, 04:36 PM   PM User | #4
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Re: Nice!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ronaldb66
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Further observations:
  • The color use is a bit plain, although "techie"; the contrast is a bit low on the whole;

    >> Id like to keep the colours as they are but what suggestions woul u make?
  • I'd make the gray rim around the center section equally wide, so the top could be a little less;

    >>Would i change the margin using topMargin ?
  • The sub-text next to the logo might look better underneath it;

    >>Agreed, but then i will have a massive space next to it?
  • I like the mouseover effect on the menu buttons, but it might be an idea to change the look of the button accompanying the page viewed as well; either that, or give the pages a stronger, more recognizable caption;

    >> ok i could highlight the page which is selcted
  • Code-wise, it's a shame that you've used tables for layout purposes where CSS would serve much better; related to that are a couple of other issues, one of which is the fixed width: CSS (and tables too, for that matter) would make your layout quite easily adapt to the available window width: always a favorite of mine ;

    >> are you saying i should use fixed width or relative width>
  • "... physicals access... " (typo in home page);

    >>fixed
  • Reconsider center-aligning the text on your homepage: it may look good for a while, but it usually makes for hard reading and is therefore rarely used other then for restaurant menus.

    >> again fixed

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Old 04-29-2003, 04:56 PM   PM User | #5
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I like it!

It's a bit plain, but very professional looking. I would suggest using lists instead of long paragraphs. Most people have a short attention span and will skip through paragraphs. Example:

If You:
*Are tired of generating your galleries by hand.
*Want an easy way to display images on your website of Family friends etc.
*Don't want to have to create each band by manually coding the HTML.
*etc

YOU NEED OUR SCRIPTS!
*They are easy to use, easy to customise and will make your life easier
*etc.
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Amazaun, thanks very much, ill change it to be like that

anyone else have anything to say?
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You should go back through and recheck your markup, you forgot a <title> element, list items arent closed etc.
that may just be the editor though, its okay.
keep it up.
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Old 04-30-2003, 03:57 PM   PM User | #8
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ah ok, ill run it through some parsing tools i know
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It seems fine, a bit plain at the moment to be honest, and the colours are not very appealing (just in my view)...


It is pretty good, mind you, you should look into valid coding, as pointed out before.


Oh you meta keywords are huge, it just ads unnecessary size to your file.
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HTML shouldbe valid now

just checked it

seems to be ok in mizilla or firebird now too

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Everything looks fine in what im assuming you want it to look like (IE6, 800x600)
Did you just add that bg on the content? I never noticed it, but I do now, looks cool, maybe if the lines faded away instead of just stopping ...
I agree a little with the keywords, as ionsurge pointed out, only because some of them are in there more than once.
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Old 05-01-2003, 08:27 AM   PM User | #12
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the lines gdo fade away and theyve always been ther e

subyle aint it!


so if i remove the duplicate keywords..... anything else?
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Something else

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>> Id like to keep the colours as they are but what suggestions woul u make?
I'm not that good with colors myself, but I just got the feeling the background could be a tad lighter.
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>>Would i change the margin using topMargin ?
I prefer using CSS, so that would be the margin-top property of the body element.
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>>Agreed, but then i will have a massive space next to it?
Not if you have it span the whole width of the header...
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>> are you saying i should use fixed width or relative width
Relative, like 100% for the outer table. But better still: don't use tables, go for CSS! Tables are meant for tabular data, not for layouts; CSS is.
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