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Old 02-26-2008, 01:35 AM   PM User | #1
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what is the normal salary for php developer

hi i want to know how much is the average slary of the person coding in
PHP , css, JS or working as a web developer


and how much high can person reach in web designing
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Freelance or salaried employee? Which country?

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and how much high can person reach in web designing
I don't think you can get high from web design...


Or is there something nobody is telling me?
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:16 AM   PM User | #4
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If work is steady you can make some dough however if work is slow, at times it can be you won't make much. Being hired by a company is the way to go because you get paid a salary.
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I'd say the median salary of all PHP coders is about $0.00.
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I'd say the median salary of all PHP coders is about $0.00.
Provided you are in the Open Source industry although you still get paid when you freelance
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You can get some good numbers for US salaries at www.salary.com (I think you can still get a free "salary report").

Otherwise, http://bls.gov should help as well (US Bureau of Labor Statistics)
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i have just started working (3 months) for a online supermarket in australia , They are giving mre
A$50,000.

I want to know how much rise i can get in coming years.

One thing more which i need expert advice is thet

1) It is good to work for company or market which is online and them do what ever their need is. It can be a gov't job as well where some person maintains their website

2) It is good to work for company who makes websites for other people. eb big web design company

3) or to start own web hosting design compnay . where you can earn smaal amount from hosting and smaal amount from designing. But how to find customers
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My general experience (in response to your questions)

1) It depends on if the company understands what technology is and how to leverage it. If you're working for a company that doesn't understand "the interwebs", you're screwed.

2) I've found that this too depends. I worked for Digital River a while back, and loved it. They knew what developers / designers wanted / needed and made sure you got it (within reason). On the otherhand, I've worked for other design companies that didn't understand you can't develop on Win98 / IE4

3) This is, IMO, the way to go. Keep in mind if you work for #2 and their contracting you out to their clients, they could be marking up your hourly rate to $150 - $250 easily. I guarantee you only get a fraction of that. So, it's best to cut out the middle man if you can. BUT, that also means you're going to be responsible for drumming up business, taxes, and money will ebb and flow more.

Hope this helps.
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your opinions are also right but I was asking questions from the money point of view

where are the more chances to getting more money as web developer maintaining company website or working for web designing company

i am confused whether i should applly for another job or stay here for sometime and seeif they increase my salary

I need advice reagarding this
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where are the more chances to getting more money as web developer maintaining company website or working for web designing company
Unfortunately, I don't see an easy answer to this question.

It depends, among other factors, on the companies in question. Every company has it's own way of doing things. The two types of companies you are talking about are in essentially the same field. This makes the move a lateral one - meaning going from one company to another at approximately the same level.

You're going to find companies in both categories that are very cost-centric in their approach and companies that are more willing to reward quality employees. It's all in their mindset. Do they want cheap labor and will just hire someone else rather than give a raise, or would they rather keep quality employees.

You'd also have to consider more than just increasing your salary, unless you're talking about regular pay raises. Most companies equate a substantial pay raise with increased responsibilities and/or workload.

You'd have to compare the size of your company, and more importantly, your department and the likelihood of advancement to the size and advancement opportunities of a prospective new employer. Also, do the companies in question prefer to promote from within or hire from outside.

Typically, but definitely not always, smaller departments offer fewer advancement opportunities. While there may be more advancement opportunities in larger departments, the competition will be fiercer and you may have office politics which interfere.

Since you did mention it, I'll agree with bcarl314 on the self-employment issue. I've not held a paying job in my adult life. Self-employment offers other benefits besides mere compensation. But it is a risk, Simply starting a company does not suggest the company will succeed. When it does, there can be times when the money is better than any job you could find, but there can also be times when money is tight. It's not for everyone, but then working for someone else isn't either.
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Unfortunately, I don't see an easy answer to this question.

It depends, among other factors, on the companies in question. Every company has it's own way of doing things. The two types of companies you are talking about are in essentially the same field. This makes the move a lateral one - meaning going from one company to another at approximately the same level.

You're going to find companies in both categories that are very cost-centric in their approach and companies that are more willing to reward quality employees. It's all in their mindset. Do they want cheap labor and will just hire someone else rather than give a raise, or would they rather keep quality employees.

You'd also have to consider more than just increasing your salary, unless you're talking about regular pay raises. Most companies equate a substantial pay raise with increased responsibilities and/or workload.

You'd have to compare the size of your company, and more importantly, your department and the likelihood of advancement to the size and advancement opportunities of a prospective new employer. Also, do the companies in question prefer to promote from within or hire from outside.

Typically, but definitely not always, smaller departments offer fewer advancement opportunities. While there may be more advancement opportunities in larger departments, the competition will be fiercer and you may have office politics which interfere.

Since you did mention it, I'll agree with bcarl314 on the self-employment issue. I've not held a paying job in my adult life. Self-employment offers other benefits besides mere compensation. But it is a risk, Simply starting a company does not suggest the company will succeed. When it does, there can be times when the money is better than any job you could find, but there can also be times when money is tight. It's not for everyone, but then working for someone else isn't either.
If your company allows you to surf the internet, it would be good to build up your general knowledge in the particular section that you are interested in venturing about, let's say web development by running your own company. As in, building up connections by looking around and finding people who might need your service in near future and who would be willing to work in your company (also add in if you are acting as a medium wherein you'll take commission fees for each customer they get and what benefits they get) - you might also want to consider creating a company with a group of freelancers. When it comes to advertising and making your company known, build up your resources by writing down a list of directories and alternatives on both paper and bookmarking. I may not be an entrepreneur nor a businessman, neither an experienced person, however i can offer you basic knowledge lol
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One thing I will say, having worked a job "because it pays well" is, you may think that a high-paying job is ideal, but if you're doing it just for the money, you will never be happy. It's much better to find something you love doing, and do it well. The money will always follow.

Don't look at the money. Look at the company, the people, and how much you can learn / grow / enjoy your job. You may find that a $35k / year job at the right place is much more satisfying than a $70k / year job at hellholedesignco Inc.

Granted, I understand you want to be compensated for what you're worth, but compensation comes in many forms, and for me, respect and dignity have a certain value that can't be replaced by a paycheck.

Just my experience.
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One thing I will say, having worked a job "because it pays well" is, you may think that a high-paying job is ideal, but if you're doing it just for the money, you will never be happy. It's much better to find something you love doing, and do it well. The money will always follow.

Don't look at the money. Look at the company, the people, and how much you can learn / grow / enjoy your job. You may find that a $35k / year job at the right place is much more satisfying than a $70k / year job at hellholedesignco Inc.

Granted, I understand you want to be compensated for what you're worth, but compensation comes in many forms, and for me, respect and dignity have a certain value that can't be replaced by a paycheck.

Just my experience.

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If your company allows you to surf the internet, it would be good to build up your general knowledge in the particular section that you are interested in venturing about, let's say web development by running your own company.
I think you are very right dude , here in company i have full access to internet i can do what ever i want . Usually i am free 50% of the day and spend all that time on internet to learn new skills. There is no other IT person in comapny so no one knows what i am doing with computer, as long as i do what they want.

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One thing I will say, having worked a job "because it pays well" is, you may think that a high-paying job is ideal, but if you're doing it just for the money, you will never be happy. It's much better to find something you love doing, and do it well. The money will always follow.

Don't look at the money. Look at the company, the people, and how much you can learn / grow / enjoy your job. You may find that a $35k / year job at the right place is much more satisfying than a $70k / year job at hellholedesignco Inc.

Granted, I understand you want to be compensated for what you're worth, but compensation comes in many forms, and for me, respect and dignity have a certain value that can't be replaced by a paycheck.

Just my experience.

You are also right bcarl314 .
Thats why i was asking beacuse i am very happy and fully satisfied with the company.
I told them that i want good desktop computer and they bought be
22" wide screen core quad processor. I can use their all internet download quota (60GB)

As i am getting experienced , i usually finished thier work very early and then i can spend more time on learning new things. I can start building small compnay and fin some clients .Currenlty they give me
A $50000

SO what i was thinking was if the new company give me A$70000.
then i will not have that freedom which i here has . so what u guys think i should stay there ?

SIDENOTE: bcarl314 i am sorry for that satellite missile thing post. you r a nice man .
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