OK, thanks. I know for my last database, I had a password and user set up - I can see them in the mySQL table. How I got them there I dont remember. I will try with blanks... Yes mySQl was up.. OK, Iwill try again........... Ah, sure enough it worked - at least, with user and pwd set to blank, I was able to connect. I got some other error futher along, but at least I got connected. Thanks!