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Redcoder,
Not to add to the debate, but my personal reason for avoiding JavaScript and AJAX is this...
Most systems and programmers that I see flock to JavaScript and AJAX don't focus on good design first. (I am working on a $5 million piece of junk at work that would come to a grinding halt if you turned off JS?!)
My goal is to build a website that works entirely *without* JS, and then after I have a website that is designed well and supports clients with JS off, THEN I can consider "prettying things up" and making things "sexier" with JS.
So far, I can get as good of a user-experience WITHOUT JS as with it.
But that is just me.
Debbie
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