I give up. I *WAS* just trying to find out what you were after. Trying to give you an answer to fit your needs. I gave you one answer but it didn't seem to be what you wanted. So I tried again. But I *still* don't know what you were asking for.
If it is "talking down to" to ask for more information, then I won't do so with you any more. I just won't talk to you and that will solve everything.
An optimist sees the glass as half full.
A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
A realist drinks it no matter how much there is.