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    ==>!<==

    Uhh...Where is this exclamation mark (!) in the lower left hand corner in IE coming from in the index and 'suggestions' pages @ http://doof.us/fence/ ? I've used the search feature in my text editor...doesn't see it either.
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    Last edited by zoobie; 02-02-2004 at 01:24 AM.
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    <body onUnload="flush( ! )">

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    Weird, damn weird.
    I downloaded your site and tried to fix it, but with no success
    Although you have some big coding errors!
    Example:
    Code:
    <UL>
      <LI>1 Year Guarantee
      <LI>Quality Craftsmanship
      <LI>Quality Materials
      <LI>Prompt and Friendly Service
      <LI>Custom fence designs
      <LI>Timely Installation </LI></UL>
    MUST BE:
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    <UL>
      <LI>1 Year Guarantee</li>
      <LI>Quality Craftsmanship</li>
      <LI>Quality Materials</li> 
      <LI>Prompt and Friendly Service</li> 
      <LI>Custom fence designs</li> 
      <LI>Timely Installation </LI>
    </UL>
    *You did not quote any of your links' class attributes. class=link should be class="link".

    **You have only closed ONE of your <p> tags. Every tag must be closed. <p> is NOT A SPACER!

    Even after fixing all your coding errors, I still couldn't get rid of the damn "!"...

    I take no responsibility for the above nonsense.


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    Maybe it's one of the comment tags messing up somehow? That's all I can think of

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    THAT"S IT!

    I tried getting rid of your comment under the content, but that wasn't it.
    BUt get rid of ALL the comments and it's all good
    Seeing as I've already corrected it, here's your HTML
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    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
    
    <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Fence Experts - Fencing Erie Lafayette Louisville Broomfield Superior Colorado</TITLE>
    <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
    <LINK href="Colorado_files/style.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet>
    <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
    <BODY>
    <DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">
    <DIV class=container_page>
    <DIV class=img_header>
    <DIV class=container_logo>
    <DIV class=header>FENCE EXPERTS</DIV>
    <DIV class=header2>Residential &amp; Commercial Fencing</DIV>
    <H1>Serving<BR>Erie Lafayette Louisville Broomfield 
    Superior<BR>Colorado</H1></DIV>
    <DIV class=header3>SPECIALIZING IN QUALITY CEDAR PRIVACY FENCES</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=container_menu><A href="http://doof.us/fence/privacy.html">Privacy 
    Fence</A> <A href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Vinyl Fence</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Split Rail Fence</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Chain Link Fence</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Ornamental Iron</A> <A class=instant 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/estimate.html">INSTANT ESTIMATE</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/faq.html">Suggestions</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/specs.html">Specifications</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/tell.html">Tell-A-Friend</A> <A 
    href="http://doof.us/fence/contact.html">Contact Us</A> </DIV>
    <DIV class=container_main><IMG style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FLOAT: right; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: -5px 0px -5px 5px; WIDTH: 360px; HEIGHT: 159px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px" 
    alt="FENCE EXPERTS serving
    Erie Lafayette Louisville
    Broomfield Superior Colorado" 
    src="Colorado_files/stockadefence.jpg"> 
    <P>The traditional beauty and function of fencing makes it a great home addition 
    in style and value. 
    <P>Whether you've moved into a new home, have young children or a new pet, or 
    are simply looking for some extra privacy or security, fencing offers an 
    aesthetically pleasing and functional solution. 
    <P>FENCE EXPERTS offers a variety of woods and styles to choose. Our friendly 
    knowledgable representatives understand the specific wood and hardware 
    requirements for your needs, climate, location, home style, and budget. 
    <P>Choose from an assortment of stockade cedar privacy, vinyl, split rail, 
    chain-link, and ornamental iron. All fences are guaranteed in quality and 
    craftsmanship for 1 year. 
    <P>Our <A class=link href="http://doof.us/fence/estimate.html">INSTANT 
    ESTIMATE</A> feature enables you to get an accurate price on your fencing 
    addition or replacement. Simply choose your fence type, gates, and footage. Your 
    online estimate is instantly displayed. 
    <P>FENCE EXPERTS include: 
    <UL>
      <LI>1 Year Guarantee</li>
      <LI>Quality Craftsmanship</li>
      <LI>Quality Materials</li> 
      <LI>Prompt and Friendly Service</li> 
      <LI>Custom fence designs</li> 
      <LI>Timely Installation </LI></UL></p>
    <P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/faq.html">Suggestions</A> helps with 
    the task of dealing with neighbor situations. Solutions including cost reduction 
    can be found here.</p>
    <P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/specs.html">Specifications</A> shows 
    the basic blueprints for fence building. Always wondered how a fence is actually 
    built? Check out this page and see.</p> 
    <P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/tell.html">Tell-A-Friend</A> about 
    FENCE EXPERTS. Use this page to inform your friends and neighbors about the 
    benefits of a quality intallation by FENCE EXPERTS.</p>
    <P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/contact.html">Contact</A> or call 
    FENCE EXPERTS today at 720-890-8650 for your free estimate! </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
    Andrew

    *edit: you'll have to tweak your CSS now that I've added closing tags to your <li>'s.
    26 minutes between posting and getting a solution... you're a lucky man
    Last edited by mindlessLemming; 02-02-2004 at 01:51 AM.

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    Originally posted by mindlessLemming
    Although you have some big coding errors!
    Example:
    Code:
    <UL>
      <LI>1 Year Guarantee
      <LI>Quality Craftsmanship
      <LI>Quality Materials
      <LI>Prompt and Friendly Service
      <LI>Custom fence designs
      <LI>Timely Installation </LI></UL>
    *You did not quote any of your links' class attributes. class=link should be class="link".

    **You have only closed ONE of your <p> tags. Every tag must be closed. <p> is NOT A SPACER!

    Even after fixing all your coding errors, I still couldn't get rid of the damn "!"...
    Er...huh? Sorry man...but I think your browser's gone ga ga. There's absolutely none of what you mentioned above on my page(s). It also validates HTML 4.01 strict and css
    Last edited by zoobie; 02-02-2004 at 01:55 AM.
    Zoobie or not Zoobie...That is the problem.
    <body onUnload="flush( ! )">

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    Originally posted by zoobie
    Er...huh? Sorry man...but I think your browser's gone ga ga. There's absolutely none of what you mentioned above on my page(s). It also validates HTML 4.01 strict and css
    LOL! You're right, I opened it in IE to see the error, then saved entire site so I could work on it locally....
    IE totally brutalised your code!!!! It removed closing tags and changed all tags to uppercase! What a P.O.S.!!!

    I didn't think a long term member like yourself would have written the pile of crap IE made

    But at least you got a solution

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    Originally posted by mindlessLemming
    What a P.O.S.!!!

    I didn't think a long term member like yourself would have written the pile of crap IE made
    Heh heh...Actually, I did write a "pile" the other day. I've never written a page the same way twice.
    Thanks...It's gone!
    Zoobie or not Zoobie...That is the problem.
    <body onUnload="flush( ! )">

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    Zoob you aren't an exception when it comes to naming threads! Makes it seem like we discriminate against junior members if you can get away with it ... "==>!<==" could probably have been written as "Unexplained characters in IE" or something.

    On another note that is a really weird problem you had, I've never had IE do that before!
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    Sounds like a mindless mistake to me. IE doesn't remove code.

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    Originally posted by ArcticFox
    Sounds like a mindless mistake to me. IE doesn't remove code.
    Yes it does. When iew saves to file, it saves a document generated from it's in-memory document tree, it does not save the actual code. This means that it does such things as removing quotes around some attributes, it uppercases all tag names, it doesn't include end tag when they may be implicit, it reformats your CSS (in some ways that a better CSS parser, such as the one in moz, saf and op7 would choke on, but that are the same for iew) etc. About the only thing it doesn't take from it's memory representation instead of cache are binary file types and scripts.

    Especially you will notice that it changes the things it doesn't recognise. Which means it removes entirely legal css constructs, among other things.
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    I'm pretty sure Arctic Fox was being sarcastic, that's why this ( ) feller was hanging on that message.

    Thanks for an explanation of why IE would perform such horrible surgery on a page when it's saved.
    Check out the Forum Search. It's the short path to getting great results from this forum.

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    Originally posted by ArcticFox
    Sounds like a mindless mistake to me. IE doesn't remove code.

    Yeah right! I've never written a tag in capitals in my LIFE!
    Cheap shot though Arctic Fox!
    Thanks for bringing in the truth David (liorean)

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    Originally posted by mindlessLemming
    Yeah right! I've never written a tag in capitals in my LIFE!
    I do it all the time when I write example code

    Such as:
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    function alertMe(){
    alert('You have been alerted!');
    }
    </script>
    </HEAD>
    
    <BODY onload="alertMe()">
    .....Willy

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    Originally posted by mindlessLemming
    Yeah right! I've never written a tag in capitals in my LIFE!
    Cheap shot though Arctic Fox!
    Thanks for bringing in the truth David (liorean)
    Alright, before this possibly ends up in a nice flame ( which I know wouldn't happen with members like you guys right? ) I'm closing the thread. Problem was answered and we're all much the wiser thanks to liorean.

    *Thread closed*.
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