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    HTML5 support in IE8 ?

    hello

    the HTML5 features here are great (the form ones), but don't seem to work with my IE8:
    http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/n...ures-in-html5/

    I can't use these features in my websites if IE8 don't support them.
    will IE8 ever WILL support these ?
    god damn it, I'm so FAAAT !

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    Hello fat,
    IE8 can support some HTML5, with some help. Look here to see how.
    Validate often DURING development - Use it like a splelchecker | Debug during Development |Write it for FireFox, ignore IE
    Use the right DocType | Validate your markup | Validate your CSS | Why validating is good | Why tables are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat View Post
    I can't use these features in my websites if IE8 don't support them.
    will IE8 ever WILL support these ?
    The IE 8 that is supporting HTML 5 is called IE 9.
    So, if you’re expecting IE 8 to magically support HTML 5 without upgrading then: no, IE 8 will never support HTML 5 natively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excavator View Post
    Hello fat,
    IE8 can support some HTML5, with some help. Look here to see how.
    I was refferring to the form filling features, not the CSS ones.
    god damn it, I'm so FAAAT !

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    The IE 8 that is supporting HTML 5 is called IE 9.
    That's great ! Thanks VIP , I'm still laughing.
    Validate often DURING development - Use it like a splelchecker | Debug during Development |Write it for FireFox, ignore IE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excavator View Post
    That's great ! Thanks VIP , I'm still laughing.
    when it comes to my site visitors - there will always be a lot of IE 8 users that will refuse to upgrade their IE 8 to IE 9
    maybe if Microsoft release a patch for IE 8 for HTML5 support....isn't that a posibility ?
    god damn it, I'm so FAAAT !

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat View Post
    when it comes to my site visitors - there will always be a lot of IE 8 users that will refuse to upgrade their IE 8 to IE 9
    maybe if Microsoft release a patch for IE 8 for HTML5 support....isn't that a posibility ?
    1. If someone is still using XP then they can't upgrade to IE9.

    2. No browser supports HTML 5 yet because it is still only a drsaft for people to try out. Browsers are implementing parts of the draft so that people can see if that piece works or not.

    3. The last time Microsoft implemented a draft version of something (CSS 2 in IE5) the final version turned out to be significantly different and they had to find a way to distinguish web pages that followed the standard CSs2 from those that followed the earlier draft version used in IE 5 - that'w where quirks mode origiinated. After that you can't blame Microsoft for not wanting to implement the current draft version of HTML 5 - after all most people are still using HTML 3.2 and haven't yet upgraded to use HTML 4 and that became a standard in 1997.

    4. Microsoft will drop support for IE8 at the same time they drop support for XP - everyone still using XP after that will be stuck with IE8 or can upgrade to an alternative browser.

    5. Given the time it has taken for IE6 to die you can expect the current IE8 to be around almost exactly as currently for at least another eight to ten years. By then a decent fraction of the web might actually be using HTML 4 and the HTML 5 draft might have got rid of all the garbage and be close to becoming a standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    1. If someone is still using XP then they can't upgrade to IE9.

    2. No browser supports HTML 5 yet because it is still only a drsaft for people to try out. Browsers are implementing parts of the draft so that people can see if that piece works or not.

    3. The last time Microsoft implemented a draft version of something (CSS 2 in IE5) the final version turned out to be significantly different and they had to find a way to distinguish web pages that followed the standard CSs2 from those that followed the earlier draft version used in IE 5 - that'w where quirks mode origiinated. After that you can't blame Microsoft for not wanting to implement the current draft version of HTML 5 - after all most people are still using HTML 3.2 and haven't yet upgraded to use HTML 4 and that became a standard in 1997.

    4. Microsoft will drop support for IE8 at the same time they drop support for XP - everyone still using XP after that will be stuck with IE8 or can upgrade to an alternative browser.

    5. Given the time it has taken for IE6 to die you can expect the current IE8 to be around almost exactly as currently for at least another eight to ten years. By then a decent fraction of the web might actually be using HTML 4 and the HTML 5 draft might have got rid of all the garbage and be close to becoming a standard.
    good post.
    a conclution is that it is to early (and will be to early in the following year too) to use HTML 5 on one's website and expect for every site visitor to view your site correctly.
    god damn it, I'm so FAAAT !

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    I usually take these kind of lists with a pinch of salt, but it more or less sums up IE on the subject: http://www.findmebyip.com/litmus/

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    Html5

    Hi,

    HTML5 is fully compatible with IE8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manusaktteva View Post
    Hi,

    HTML5 is fully compatible with IE8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manusaktteva View Post
    Hi,

    HTML5 is fully compatible with IE8.
    i smell a spam link coming...


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