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    do you dislike html5 and css3?

    Hello,

    I was wondering what exactly bothers people about html5 and css3. I'm not asking for a justification of any kind, just your subjective, personal angle.

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    -jj.

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    I only dislike people that blindly follow the hype about it before it’s even officially released. People that sit in front of their iPhone the whole day (which they also only have because they are blindly following a hype) and geek out about the CSS gradients, rounded corners and shadows that only work in their one browser and only with a proprietary extension.

    Also I would have liked if they had left the iframe out and rather concentrated on continuing to promote the proper implementation of the object element. But other than that I’m cool with it.

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    I love it, although there is no way we can use it for another 10 years because we have to wait for everyone to upgrade their browsers, which is the only thing preventing the web from moving forward.

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    Why not use polyfills?

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    This site show comparability of html5 and css3 with browsers:
    http://www.findmebyip.com/litmus/

    Looks to me that all are trying hard to support them asap with the exception of IE7 & 8 which M$ has decided to punish there users for not buying their new OP system. So I shall use it soon.

    In this day and age people not upgrading browsers when they are stable has to be in the minority.

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    Because I'm not a web designer by trade, my goal is to produce backwardly compatible web pages, first and foremost. Therefore, I have no interest in anything which is not as yet fully supported, regardless of what it can do.

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    Dan, did you look at the site I posted? Most of this stuff is supported. Alternate means can be added for when an older browser is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunfighter View Post
    Most of this stuff is supported.
    How do you define “supported”? Write three different CSS properties with proprietary prefixes to make one style work in different browsers, like CSS gradients, which have a completely different implementation? That’s not how it’s supposed to be.

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    That website plays games with the truth. As VIP noted, proprietary extensions do not count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunfighter View Post
    Dan, did you look at the site I posted? Most of this stuff is supported. Alternate means can be added for when an older browser is used.
    Yes, but it means very little to me. I want my viewers to have an equal experience of my website, regardless of what browser they are using. With some fairly obvious exceptions...

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    Html5 and CSS3 are simply tools. There is a time and place for every tool to be used. For instance, I dont want my dentist using a sledgehammer. That being said, if your website is geared more towards the techy people why not use HTML5 and CSS3 and show that you are up on current trends and their browsers will support it. I have used HTML5 and CSS3 on some projects to create gradients in such with great support across browsers with no extra extensions. Yes Safari 3 doesnt support it...and older versions of IE wont support it. But come on, we are used to having to have different sets of codes for different users already such as IE fixes and Mobile users. So, you are not doing more work, in fact alot of HTML5 and CSS3 is about lessening the workload.

    Now all that being said, true 100% support will probably never happen. By the time all browsers catch up we will be moved onto something else. But, hey there isnt true 100% support of Html4 and Css 2 but you are still using it arent you. Its about the right tool for the right job for the right audience in my eyes.

    My two cents...can I have my change back

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    In general, there's nothing I particularly dislike about the CSS3 spec, but the way in which certain features are likely tobeing abused without consideration of the overall design does worry me.

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    As a web designer, I obsessed with HTML5 and CSS3.

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    I'm a newbie in this field, so it's not a problem for me.


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