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    Pixels or Percentages

    I am coding a site, and have pretty much always gone by pixels, but I want to know what other people would prefer...

    Would you prefer the layout to take the whole of your screen (a nice "snug" fit)

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    Would you prefer a layout to be centered in the middle of the screen with loads of space even each side of the layout (fixed width) ?
    Last edited by Jazz914; 10-28-2009 at 09:31 PM.

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    Personally, I don't care if it stretches or not as long as it isn't so wide that I have to maximize my browser window to avoid a horizontal scroll. I generally tend to have about 6 programs running and I don't like having to have my web browser maximized. I usually start fixed or min-width pages at 1000px wide which leaves me about 22% of my screen to do other things on. I positively HATE 1280px wide fixed-width web pages for exactly this reason. Most people probably don't do this while web browsing though so my opinion might be worthless. Even so, I think most users have at least 1000px of desktop width so I would keep any static or minimum widths at or below that figure. The rest is just a matter of how you want your content to behave, really, and that's always up to you. I will say that coding a layout for fixed-width sites is a lot easier which probably has more to do with why it is so prevalent in the industry. As a result, users are more used to seeing fixed-width so anything else will be unusual to them. Depending on your treatment of it, this can work for or against you.

    So, the roundabout answer is this: most likely it doesn't really matter but if you are going to set a static or minimum width I would recommend that you make it small enough that people don't need to deal with horizontal scrolling.

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    Dynamic width depends on the site and whether or not it will look decent if a browser is 2000 pixels wide or 500 pixels wide. Rowsdower! pretty much covered everything and I'm in the fixed size and (usually) centered camp though, again, it depends on the site more than anything. Horizontal scroll should be avoided at all costs IMO.
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    Neither. I like ems. Just so I have the option, you know?

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    @Rowsdower!
    The layouts already coded, and was designed on a 1000px width canvas, as you said is the minimum these days as its very rare to find anyone on a screen resolution below that, i've coded the layout both in percent and pixels and I don't really have a preferance, on one hand its great, you get extra room for the content, on the other it doesn't always seem right. I'm on a 1280 wide screen laptop, so having a layout at center 1000 width is more than perfect for me, but i'm just thinking about those people who have 1280+ width monitors, IMO having that match space at both ends of the site would look kind of silly IMO.

    Also coding a layout in percentages would fulfil that "void" of multi-tasking whilst browsing and you can even make it smaller if needed, I know what you mean though, I do multitask whilst browsing sometimes and I to, hate horrizontal bars.

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    Its design where most things can be repeated across, when I made the percentage version it didn't look half bad, but thats just one mans opinion, the other guy I showed it to (he has a 1680 width moniter -.-) and he said he hates sites which take up the full width of the screen.

    @Apostropartheid
    EMs is still a form of fixed width, and depends on the font being used.. (correct me if i'm wrong, I don't tend to use ems)

    Is it possible to change the poll? I want to add "No Preference" as an option aswell
    Last edited by Jazz914; 10-28-2009 at 09:46 PM.

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    I'm not really sure. Has anyone actually voted in it yet anyway?
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    I have 1 vote lol
    I was hoping for a wide range as it gives me more of a valid answer, if I don't get a wide range of votes, I might provide both as an option, but it won't be a priority..

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    Em isn't fixed because it varies on user preference, much like percentage-based layouts. I believe the term for it is fluid and that of percentages elastic, but it never really occurred to me as something to care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz914 View Post
    I have 1 vote lol
    I was hoping for a wide range as it gives me more of a valid answer, if I don't get a wide range of votes, I might provide both as an option, but it won't be a priority..
    The poll is confuse. Is like you ask what is better to use for eating, a spoon or a fork, but you don't say what you eat soup or something else.

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    do we eat soup??

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    Just had a thought oesxyl. No criticism of your understanding of english intended. It is a subject discussed amongst english speaking people as to whether we eat or drink soup. I hope I didn't offend!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bazz View Post
    do we eat soup??

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    Just had a thought oesxyl. No criticism of your understanding of english intended. It is a subject discussed amongst english speaking people as to whether we eat or drink soup. I hope I didn't offend!


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    I'm not so sensitive, Anyway my bad english didn't change the meaning,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz914 View Post
    @Rowsdower!
    The layouts already coded, and was designed on a 1000px width canvas, as you said is the minimum these days as its very rare to find anyone on a screen resolution below that...
    Actually, screen are getting smaller. More and more people connect with iPhones, Wiis, and netbooks every day.

    I'll bet that within 5 years, a third of requests will be to screens smaller than 1024X768.
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    After reading the article "The Incredible Em & Elastic Layouts with CSS" (thanks for the link Cyan Light ), I've built an elastic layout, which can be resized within limits ,along with changing the text size. I've given 3 buttons for users to "zoom in", "zoom out" and view in "normal size" and I use javascript/php based cookies to save the preference through out the session. (Of course, there can't be much variations in the size of title/logo or any other images for pixelation issues.)
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    @oesxyl
    Its just a general question, like do you like how the codingforums layout takes up the whole screen or would you have preferred it to be a fixed width in the center?

    @rnd me
    Maybe, but I doubt it. If you look at a site on the ipod/iphone, its not the same as viewing it on a small screen, it would show you the site as it would normally appear just zoomed out, so its not really a BIG issue. Netbooks won't "take over the world" as they are just not that powerful, and was never designed to be powerful as the main goal for them is to last long at doing simple but not TOO simple stuff, like work related stuff; business documents etc.

    Granted technology is getting smaller, but they won't put server specs in a notebook, it wouldn't be right, and imagine the heat it would generate, and the battery would run out quicker.

    As for the WII comment, people can browse the internet on their WII, but its on a TV, its very unlikely to have a console like that on a screen 1000px below xD Most people i've seen have it on a screen 22"+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz914 View Post
    @oesxyl
    Its just a general question, like do you like how the codingforums layout takes up the whole screen or would you have preferred it to be a fixed width in the center?
    yes but still have no meaning. You ask if you prefere pixels or percentages, the general question is if you prefere relative or absolute units. When you talk about relative you must know that are relative to something, screen or specifc elements, font size, width or height. No matter how you split the question the final answer depend of how you design the layout, what kind of layout you like.
    How I could answer to this question if I don't know what kind o layout I prefere? But if you ask what kind of layout I prefere, after I answer I must answer to the question how I like to implement it? Fixed width/height in the center of the page or fluid? Then I come back to relative and absolute,
    I didn't mention here that designing the layout without knowing what is the content is plain stupid( despite the fact that is a very popular habit),
    Now if I forget what I said, what I should vote?

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