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    Senior Coder Spudhead's Avatar
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    Browser identification

    Something is appearing in my site stats as "MSN 1.0". What is it? Who uses it?

    Incidentally, if you know of a site that lists common browser ident labels and what those browsers actually ARE (ie: "Explorer 5.2 - this is IE on a Mac"), I'd be dead, dead grateful, like.


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    You realize Firefox and Opera users can send whatever user agent they want to, right?
    And if I use my Java thing I made that reads URLs, I send whatever user agent I feel like using.

    It's just a header. Anyone can send whatever they want.

    If this post contains any code, I may or may not have tested it. It's probably just example code, so no getting knickers in a bunch over a typo, OK? If it doesn't have basic error checking in it, such as object detection or checking if objects are null before using them, put that in there. I'm giving examples, not typing up your whole app for you. You run code at your own risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkiH
    It's just a header. Anyone can send whatever they want.
    Normally just lying saying they're other browsers though

    MSN 1.0 is Microsoft's subscription only browser - If it's version 1 it'll almost certinally be the OS X version, which is powered by the Tasman rendering engine, which is in most ways superior to the Trident rendering engine (used on IE/Win and MSN/Win).

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    .. a site that lists common browser ident labels and what those browsers actually ARE ..
    http://www.psychedelix.com/agents.html

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    Some browsers have to lie about what browser that they are because some dummies code their web pages to check that the browser being used is IE before allowing access even though the page will work perfectly well in all modern browsers as well.
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    ^ My view on people who do that is 'leave them to it'. If they want to exclude people because they aren't using IE, then they don't deserve you viewing their site!

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    Unfortunately some of the worst offenders in blocking access to non-IE browsers are big companies and government departments where you often don't get the choice of leaving them to it.

    The ones that give me the biggest problem are the sites that advertise jobs and the Australian Taxation Office.
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