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    Best CMS for the job

    I'm sure this question has been asked a thousand times before, but everyone has specific requirements.

    The cms must be easy and intuitive - I've used and am currently using wordpress but I feel I'm reaching the limits of what it can do without a million plugins etc.

    The site is currently fairly simple - a couple of standard static pages linked from the main menu. However, the requirement is arising for multilingual and multiregional sites. By this I mean certain content will be specific to the country that is identified by the ip or selected from a drop down, but also available in multiple languages. The cms must be able to handle this requirement well and in a way that is robust and easy to use.

    As I said I'm using worspress at the moment but the plugins required in my opionion complicate things too much. I've considered expression engine but don't know whether it's possible to get the results I want.

    Does anyone run a similar setup using a cms that is available online paid or free. I'm looking for advice an opinions and all are welcome. Many thanks in advance.
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    I don't do i18n, but I know Drupal is robust enough to handle it. Have a look here for starters: http://drupal.org/node/133977

    Version 7 should be released in the next few months, too, and it looks to be another step in making the system easier to use.
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    I have been using joomla for years on multi-lingual sites in guatemala, it can handle loads of languages at once. And allows you to change content and modules and template based on language if you install a component (free) called joomfish. Joomfish is by far the best multi-lingual system I have tried in years, many options and it is easy to make any component or module multi-lingual.

    Now onto something second you asked. Finding a CMS that does all these cool things out of the box without plugins is extremely hard, I have only ever found one, and it was java based (EWWWWWW!!!!).

    Most CMS systems are community based, and you wouldn´t have a community if you didn´t involve them, hence the plugins for features. Secondly it is hard for a maker of a CMS to put everything everyone could need, so they make them basic on the frontend and let other add their options easily.

    There are a few CMS systems that come built in with a lot of features, but these are expensive and based on the previous word not free!

    I personally would never use WP, it is for a BLOG. That is what it was made for, it´s purpose is a blog, so any good programmer can say, why would I use that for like an ecommerce site?? It´s like taking a daewoo muddin!!! ha ha ha

    Seriously, pick a CMS that is made for content and mass, nothing something made for a blog. Drupal, Joomla or there are smaller ones, but both of the first come with many additions, better to choose something bigger so there will be always more options for them. The smaller CMS systems don´t have as big a follower base, so not as many plugins.
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    WordPress is actually something I'd recommend for programmers just breaking into the CMS landscape. It's incredibly simple whilst being highly customizable (if you've actually used it, you'd realize that it doesn't take a huge jump from the Pages function to actual pages.)

    Joomla seems good for your needs. The PHP community, I've heard, is good around here, so if you get stuck they'll greet you with open arms.

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    Thumbs up Try Concrete5

    In my opinion, Joomla and Drupal are not very user-friendly or easy for developers to get into. WordPress is decent but at it's core it is still a blog system. I use Concrete5 for it's in-context editing and how easy it is to develop sites on. Client love the interface and point-click-edit model.

    Try a demo here: http://www.bit.ly/concrete5cms

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasAnderson View Post
    In my opinion, Joomla and Drupal are not very user-friendly
    Drive-by advertisement fail.

    My star Drupal pupil is a 70-year-old lady. All of my Drupal users are rural, non-technical, and can barely use email effectively. My point? If a Drupal site is not user-friendly, the developer did a lousy job setting it up and explaining how to use it.
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    I use Joomla for several site, there are many components, plugins and modules which will meet your various requirements, I recommend Joomla

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    Thanks everyone for your posts.

    I've spent the last 3 days trying out Drupal and I can honestly say that it's not intuitive. I've spent the majority of the time trying to work out how to make /node/2 the home page and after managing to do that now I can't work out how to make another "node" act like the original front page did i.e. a news page, so I can "promote" other nodes to the news page.

    I'm going to give up on drupal and try out joomla.

    @tomws: I appreciate that if it's set up correctly then drupal may be easy to use, but as someone who's trying to set things up, it's as complicated as it gets. Not to mention Drupal requires more plugins than wordpress, just to get the darn thing running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badman3k View Post
    Not to mention Drupal requires more plugins than wordpress, just to get the darn thing running.
    That's incorrect. Drupal doesn't need anything besides core just to get a site up and running. Everything else is bonus.

    Your trouble with the front page and nodes is most likely due to Drupal's seemingly unintuitive (at first) node naming. As you found, you can set any node (only "page" type and "story" type are available with a new installation) as the front page at admin/settings/site-information. Under that box, it states, 'If unsure, specify "node".' Doing that reverts the front page to the "news" style listing. Those "news" items are the "story" node type. A story node is more-or-less the same as a page node except for 1) the name, and 2) the "Published to front page" checkbox's default state (checked for a story, unchecked for a page).
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