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    Exclamation

    A few people have said (and i thank them for the answers) that Google doesn't like subdomains or that they don't like free web hosts.

    But that doesn't explain why Google would index half of the site (in Malay) but not the other half (in English)

    I'm sorry if i keep fishing for a definitive answer but surely there must be something other than that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limey10 View Post
    Actually the content is the same, only translated from English to Malay (by human, not google translate). The main index page is English though, so I don't understand why that would stop Google seeing it. Does it not visit the index page first and then follow the robot txt?
    not seeing pages is the problem, their relevance.

    If i swapped the language pages around until they discover all pages and then swap them back..... is that naughty..... or fiendishly clever?
    no, don't help. Google index is dynamic, if a page is relevant today must remain relevant else will be removed.

    it career is also right.

    best regards

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    Google will index some pages on a site but rarely
    all.

    Im sure you use 1 of the top 3 search engines
    often.

    How often do you run across sites hosted free
    other than blogs?

    Get a hosting account and you will be better off
    imho.

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    You need your own domain name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oesxyl View Post
    not seeing pages is the problem, their relevance.


    no, don't help. Google index is dynamic, if a page is relevant today must remain relevant else will be removed.

    it career is also right.

    best regards
    The word relevance seems to be thrown around a lot. I'm no where near as experienced in web building and seo as many of the members here so i'm keen learn the meaning of the word relevant in relation to websites.

    Half of my site (in Malay) is clearly relevant and indexed, the other half in English...not relevent.

    When i type the words "English Grammar Proofreading" into Google i get 2 1/2 million results. I believe that my content is richer and fuller than any of the top 3 results and from my dictionary, more relevant to the phrase i typed. So what is the Google meaning of the word relevance? It feels like a complicated french recipe..... just add unions, tomatoes and a splash of relevance to taste.

    Thoughts?

    I have had other subdomained or free host websites and without exception, they have all been indexed in their entirety. Having said that, I can see how a hosting account would be more attractive to a search engine, but it hasn't affected my indexing in the past.

    Thanks all for answering, please keep the thoughts coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limey10 View Post
    The word relevance seems to be thrown around a lot. I'm no where near as experienced in web building and seo as many of the members here so i'm keen learn the meaning of the word relevant in relation to websites.

    Half of my site (in Malay) is clearly relevant and indexed, the other half in English...not relevent.

    When i type the words "English Grammar Proofreading" into Google i get 2 1/2 million results. I believe that my content is richer and fuller than any of the top 3 results and from my dictionary, more relevant to the phrase i typed. So what is the Google meaning of the word relevance? It feels like a complicated french recipe..... just add unions, tomatoes and a splash of relevance to taste.

    Thoughts?

    I have had other subdomained or free host websites and without exception, they have all been indexed in their entirety. Having said that, I can see how a hosting account would be more attractive to a search engine, but it hasn't affected my indexing in the past.

    Thanks all for answering, please keep the thoughts coming.
    try this links:

    http://www.google.com/webmasters/
    http://www.webconfs.com/15-minute-seo.php
    http://www.ranks.nl/tools/spider.html
    http://www.seotoolset.com/tools/free_tools.html

    best regards

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    Thanks oesxyl. I don't wish to sound ungrateful but in my first message, i said that I have researched and researched.

    webmaster tools - I already have. Thats how I know which pages have been indexed and where I submitted my sitemap.

    15 minute SEO - Talks about keyword density, title tags, H1 tags, Alt tags, Meta tags etc. All of which i have been through.

    Spider tools - Just told me - This page looks like it is optimised for:
    grammar [7.3] * grammarproof [7.4] * proof reading [8.7] * proof [8.3] * reading [7.1] (which pretty well defines my site.

    seotoolset - tried all the links. Only problem found was that i have 56 keywords instead of 48

    It seems that no one on Coding Forums has the answer to this one.....and the frustration continues......
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    Wait now, maybe I missed it but have the pages been crawled but not indexed? Are you certain first that these Enlgish pages have even been viewed by the Google webcrawler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowsdower! View Post
    Wait now, maybe I missed it but have the pages been crawled but not indexed? Are you certain first that these Enlgish pages have even been viewed by the Google webcrawler?

    Yep, from the 224 visitors, (many of which came from Digg and Stumble)
    I was visited by Mountain View on Monday 16th November at 09.00 and
    Tuesday 3rd November at 19.58

    "I'm still smiling because they haven't found the bodies yet.....muhahaha (evil laugh)"
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    Hello,

    From your sitemap.xml page, I cut and pasted the following links...

    http://www.grammarproof.50webs.com/malayindex.html
    http://www.grammarproof.50webs.com/contact.html
    http://www.grammarproof.50webs.com/fees.html

    they all gave me the error:
    Error 404: Oooops, this page cannot be found!

    Likewise I tried..
    http://www.grammarproof.50webs.com/index.html
    it came up, but not in English.

    I also tried them through a couple of proxy servers, such as
    http://www.docoja.com/red/
    and got the same result.

    If Google is seeing the same thing I'm seeing then that would explain why
    some of your pages aren't being indexed, they all point to the 404 error page
    and look like duplicated content.

    Regards,

    Doug

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    Hi dougnbr,

    Sorry about that. I decided to bite the bullet today and have transferred all but my Malay pages to a new site at www.grammarproofing.com You must have been looking when i was mid-flow so to speak.

    So now I have the unliked English pages all looking pretty in one place, Verified with Google and Yahoo, Sitemap etc etc....

    Will be interesting to see if it gets picked up.

    (its been a long day, but hopefully worth the effort)

    I shall keep this thread posted on developments but thatnks to all that answered. Sad that i couldn't get a definitive answer but i guess it is what it is eh.
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    You're right. The new site works.

    Ran it through the W3C Validator
    http://validator.w3.org/
    There were a few errors, but nothing that I could see that would keep you from getting listed.

    Keep us posted. Good luck.

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    After you get your website moved and the code cleaned up, be sure to submit it via:

    http://www.google.com/analytics/
    AND
    http://www.google.com/webmasters/

    These are NOT THE SAME.. so do both if you haven't already. I find Analytics very helpful.

    Good luck,
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougnbr View Post
    You're right. The new site works.

    Ran it through the W3C Validator
    http://validator.w3.org/
    There were a few errors, but nothing that I could see that would keep you from getting listed.

    Keep us posted. Good luck.
    Looks like you got there after i fixed most of the errors but some i couldn't figure out at all. (I think i'll save those for another thread)


    And Profitweb. I hadn't submitted to Analytics yet so thanks for the top-tip reminder. Its done now.

    If i read the recipe correctly, i pop the contents into a google oven, set the timer to wait, and sit back until the traffic starts to roll on in. (just hope i put enough yeast into the mix)
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    Here's the "We told you so" ....

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...f&oq=&aqi=g-m1

    Ranked 4 out of 31 million ...
    http://www.google.com/search?q=gramm...ng&btnG=Search

    Ranked about 7 out of 6.5 million ...
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&aq=f&oq=&aqi=


 
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