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    Another reason you shouldn't use the XHTML doctype

    The W3C will close down work on XHTML2 by the end of the year.
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    HTML5's ability to be used as an XML document kind of spelled its death. At least valuable resources have been released.

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    So this will shortly be obsolete?

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     <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    Does this mean xhtml 1.0 will continue?

    W3C does not plan to revise the XHTML 1.0 Recommendation.
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    Yeah, after I posted this I realized I hadn't said anything about XHTML 1.0. Without giving it a lot of thought, I think it will just become deprecated in a way since HTML5 will absorb a lot of the constructs of XHTML2. Already many talk about that area of HTML5 as (X)HTML5 so that's where I think it is headed.

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    I don't think XHTML 1.0 will become any more deprecated than HTML 4.01 will. HTML 3.2 hasn't been deprecated.

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    Most of my pages are done in XHTML 1.0 since it's way easier to parse with JavaScript/PHP

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsnedders View Post
    I don't think XHTML 1.0 will become any more deprecated than HTML 4.01 will. HTML 3.2 hasn't been deprecated.
    That's what I thought and hoped the reponse would be.

    It seems logical and also to be the convention that existing pages continue to work as they always did. OK so, I guess, it slows development because browsers have to be backwardly compatible but, we really don't want the following phrase to be true do we ?

    "The Internet is broken".

    And if someone has a ton of clients' sites to manage, they would have an awful lot of work to do to keep those sites working, where the client won't see the value in paying for that work.

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    And if someone has a ton of clients' sites to manage, they would have an awful lot of work to do to keep those sites working, where the client won't see the value in paying for that work.
    I'll wait until they make a final announcement
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    Not that I know anything about that but I’d guess if you coded your documents according to current standards with semantic markup and stuff you won’t have any problem converting/updating them to the newest standard. And the few things that need to be changed can then be done with a simple search and replace.

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    hehe. let's hope the validator is up to speed from 'the off' then.

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    This after them carrying on saying XHTML is the future and will replace HTML sheesh,

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    Quote Originally Posted by primefalcon View Post
    This after them carrying on saying XHTML is the future and will replace HTML sheesh,
    Yeh I, too, am fed up with people and organsations spouting their empty virtues. In my part of the world, 'permanent' lasted 2 years. Future is another spurious term. How long is their furture?

    The sooner people get back to reality, - ironic in this fururistic technology, I know - the better.

    Even if someone comes up with the worlds best invention, they should have a reality check - it's only good until the next one comes along. patents are one thing but, if they were good patents and meant something real, there wouldn't be another 'equally good' patent around the corner tomorrow - or even, today!!

    I'll stop before a rant.

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    XHTML was NOT created to replace HTML.

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    Indeed. XHTML was intended to supplement HTML. XHTML will live on in (X)HTML5, as you can choose to author XML-style documents if you wish.

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    XHTML 1.0 served as text/html (which accounts for probably 99% of all implementations) is going to be around for years -- long after I "kick the bucket". It is just HTML anyway with well-formedness syntax constraints imposed. It will be around as long as HTML 4.01 is viable -- and that is going to be a long time. There is no way that multi-millions of web pages are going to be replaced by ones written in HTML 5 as a matter of course any time soon. There will be no need for that anyway because of backward compatibility requirements.

    Keep on using your preferably HTML 4.01 and XHTML Doctypes (hopefully STRICT) -- serve your pages as text/html (that is the default serving mode for most Server software anyway) -- you will come to no harm. By the time HTML 5 is fully usable for web implementations most of you can have your grandchildren help you upgrade your pages.

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    Web Developer Tool Kit - for creating Standards compliant and Interoperable web pages
    W3C Markup Validation Service - validate HTML code for reliable rendering in all Browsers
    WAVE accessibility evaluation tool - check page structure, image alt text, form labels, etc.


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