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    Some Newb Questions (Hosting/Affiliates)

    I am decent with PS/Illustrator and getting started learning web design. I have CS4 and access to plenty of books/tutorials, so hopefully I can keep playing around with source and figure out a lot on my own. My questions for now are more about hosting and the business side of things.

    A friend of mine needs a site built and I should be talking to them more soon. It sounds fairly simple: a few pages of info, a form to submit personal info and resumes through email, and they seem to care a lot about unlimited email features. I assume that she is going to pay me at least a couple hundred bucks on top of the costs for hosting, but I don't care too much about that.

    I have done a few gigs on craigslist before for logos, menus, etc. and will probably start to try some web design ones once I get a portfolio site up and running. I know how some people are on there... They often want spec work at rock bottom prices or they will correspond a while and disappear. I assume that asking them to go register their own .com or setup a hosting account is going to be problematic at times.

    1. So, when I quote prices in the future should I give a few choices how to pay for hosting like 1/3/6 months, or save $X with a 1/2+ year deal, then just handle it all myself after I get at least a down payment for domain+hosting+design? I still have yet to go register any domains and such myself. It looks like it won't be a problem to fill in their company info, so they can maintain ownership of the domain.

    Next, I want to make the disclaimer that I know I am new here and not trying to spam affiliate stuff or do anything wrong, just confused.

    I read this tip as a way to make extra money:

    Many web design clients donít really want to worry about hosting their own website. If youíre willing to take on that worry, you can make plenty of money and increase your chances of repeat business. After all, if you both designed a website and are hosting it, a customer is unlikely to go to someone else to update his or her site.

    You donít have to mess with servers of your own, either: using a virtual server from one of the many web hosts available can handle the needs of many small websites. There is a little worry that goes along with hosting ó if a clientís website isnít up, itís on your shoulders ó but it remains a relatively easy source of income.
    I looked up virtual private servers and didn't see the allure of them, unless you have a high traffic site and/or want to run .exe's or mess around in linux (I don't know what I am talking about). Anyhow, I found a regular host that seems really good. Even the non-Unlimited* plan has a good number of GB space/bandwidth, compared to other places I have seen. The important thing is that it can hold a few dozen domains on a single account. Plus, it is way cheaper than a VPS.

    2. Is this a good idea to pay for a long term hosting account myself then put several websites on it?

    I guess that I could charge certain people a one-time fee, or handle billing somehow. This assumes that these websites are little mom and pop stores or small blogs that will never come close to eating up all of the bandwidth. Maybe there are problems with this idea, but it still seemed like it would work to earn some extra $.

    The other option would be to try to reap the $100~ affiliate bonus every time I got a new client on a hosting plan. How I would best go about this, I don't know.

    3. Is this illegal/immoral?

    4. Anything else I should be considering?

    Thanks!

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    Let me ramble a moment--

    There's nothing illegal or immoral about handling the webhosting for your clients. But it's a pain, because domains require that yearly fee and you'll either need to get enough cash from the client up front to handle these yearl fees, or go back to your client year after year asking for the $10, or just eat that cost yourself. I unfortunately have mostly done the eating. (My client list is pretty much nil so it's not a big deal... yet) But yeah you could make a little money off a client by charging a yearly hosting fee that exceeds the cost of your one single hosting account, but I wouldn't expect to make much. It would probably be better business-wise to offer FREE hosting-- only charging for the domain registration, or even waiving that (and then of course make the real money developing the websites).

    If you do decide you'd like to provide hosting for your clients, because as you say, it's really good bait to get business-- you are their total solution, and they of course love that idea-- find yourself a host that gives you unlimited domains. Hostmonster.com is the one I'm using and while isn't not the cheapest host company per month, it's a GREAT company and does allow you to register unlimited domains, and they handle the registration including the privacy stuff for $10/year, which is not Godaddy's $3.99 or whatever, but the difference between Godaddy and Hostmonster is like the difference between a 1990 Hyundai Exel and a 2010 Mustang GT. And they do have an affiliate program (There is a limit of 100 MySQL databases unless you upgrade, but 100 should get you a pretty good client base!)

    Anyway... do I love Hostmonster? Yeah Sorry I'll move on. If you do decide to open an account with them, I'd appreciate the affiliate referral! (ok sorry I'm done now)

    As far as "email features" go, what features do you mean-- ability to send, or receive? Most hosting companies have sufficient means to do both.

    I'm not sure why the guy you quoted thought virtual private servers would be necessary. Any hosting company gives you a real server, or a slice of one anyway. You shouldn't need to mess with any virtual thingamabobs, unless like you said you have an extremely high-volume website. And we'd all love to have that problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fumigator View Post
    the difference between Godaddy and Hostmonster is like the difference between a 1990 Hyundai Exel and a 2010 Mustang GT
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