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    Question What do you think is on the horizon for web development?

    This is just a general question, because its always good to get a little discussion going on.

    What do you think is on the horizon for web development in 5-10 years? 10 years ago this was Yahoo and I'm curious what you think will be important in the next leap of internet history. What kinds of technologies will be used, what abilities will users have, what will the landscape be like in your perception?
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    Well if we follow Yahoo's lead; a lot more clutter.

    However I think it will be quite the opposite, more huge jumps in efficiency and ease-of-use.

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    i agree, in part. i think we'll have a lot more frameworks that will cut the amount of code required to do what we're doing today greatly. however, i believe we'll get a proportionally large number of people using them incorrectly & in a way that will increase the amount of code required. that in combination with the inevitable outreach of broadband tech to every corner of the world, we'll see more & more streaming content along with new types of it, ajax really is the beginning of the future, native rich content on the web will be another, at the end of the next 10 years be expecting browsers that natively support dynamic content via tags rather than through scripting alone & server side languages created specifically for streaming xhtml content (kind of like the irc php script, search for the posts) for "slideshow-esqe" rendering, that combined with client side scripting i think will usher in the web 3.0 buzz word.
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    I've wondered if internet users will be more savvy? And I think the answer is not likely. Its going to be up to us to make anything really cool, really easy.

    Found this about 'web 3.0. its amusing: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/web3point0
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    may be there will be a new name. Liek current is web 2.0 Next can be web zigma or some other fancy name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremywilken View Post
    I've wondered if internet users will be more savvy? And I think the answer is not likely. Its going to be up to us to make anything really cool, really easy.
    I propose an even better question: Will web developers be more savvy? Will the amount of bad code/interfaces/etc. written decline?
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    in my humble opinion, no. as long as there are not pre-defined layouts embedded directly in html (instead of through editors such as dreamweaver, frontpage (thank god it's dead), visual studio, etc) people won't ever come to a common point in actually making usable user interfaces, about 50% will be usable, 10% will be great and 40% will be in a perpetual state of "site under construction" or horrible repair.

    again, without more intervention from the frameworkers, i don't think that the amount of code will decrease either (a taglib directive (from jsp) lookalike would be an interesting addition to the xhtml spec, using the namespace import mechanisms to bring in custom tags to save code & allow more modularity) without fundamental changes to the language or the code we consider valid. i think xhtml will eventually help in this, but in the present age of trying to show everyone how to get their html 4.01 valid.... there's a long way to go before we can realize any solid positives from it.
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    Hopefully, I think that we'll be able to modulate (X)HTML a lot easier, especially seeing as that was what XHTML was designed for. As long as we could style it properly, then that might be a good way to address any shortcomings in the specs.

    If there is another Web ANYTHING, they'd better be creative enough to come up with a new name. I had my mate jump around the room about it, severely annoyed that anyone would even consider trying to number a trend in design which isn't any different to how design naturally evolves over time. Meh.

    It's probably wishful thinking that web standards will become an absolute requirement, but I do like to think to myself that we're reaching people; and hopefully, more by the time we turn 290 and have a heart attack in a still underfunded NHS hospital.

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    I think they're going to come out with something entirely new and more efficient before they fix any of the coding out right now. Including the whole World Wide Web in general.

    Hopefully, it will be something in our lifetime. I'm rooting for virtual reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilas14 View Post
    I'm rooting for virtual reality.
    I'm kind of partial to real reality...
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    The elimination of Tables.

    The elimination of www.

    The "make your own tld". (or elimination of tlds)

    Virtual Reality?

    Banned internet?

    Who knows?

    With how things are going now, the internet could continue being a multi trillion dollar way of income, or it could be outlawed from citizens?

    lol, bit of fantacism. But really I'm just hoping technology leaps, before web development does. For instance, better equipment to run more high tech devices. Maybe the elimination of the hard drive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremywilken View Post
    I'm kind of partial to real reality...
    Well, the new generations love video games, so I'm thinking the new xbox 360 might really be a 360 experience. I don't think virtual reality would be for me, but I think it would be something neat to experience before I die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deacon Frost View Post
    The elimination of Tables.

    The elimination of www.

    The "make your own tld".

    Virtual Reality?

    Banned internet?

    Who knows?

    With how things are going now, the internet could continue being a multi trillion dollar way of income, or it could be outlawed from citizens?

    lol, bit of fantacism. But really I'm just hoping technology leaps, before web development does. For instance, better equipment to run more high tech devices. Maybe the elimination of the hard drive?
    They can pry my hard drive from my cold dead fingers with the imprints of the ram still on my fingers. Or whatever. Good imagery can't be bought. But you can still pay me for it.

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    Someday the internet will be the air we breathe. Ahhh the Matrix is coming!

    Virtual reality as a game is one thing, but I've read up on the development trends (which we are apparently going to be able to produce a computer smarter than us in about 10 years) and its a bit scary how much technology is predicted to develop in the next couple decades. Think about going to the store, dropping a grand on a new computer, and having it be smarter than you? Does that freak anyone else out?

    But as far as web development, I'm really really looking at things like this: are developers going to have better tools, what else will the internet be integrated with, and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremywilken View Post
    Someday the internet will be the air we breathe. Ahhh the Matrix is coming!

    Virtual reality as a game is one thing, but I've read up on the development trends (which we are apparently going to be able to produce a computer smarter than us in about 10 years) and its a bit scary how much technology is predicted to develop in the next couple decades. Think about going to the store, dropping a grand on a new computer, and having it be smarter than you? Does that freak anyone else out?

    But as far as web development, I'm really really looking at things like this: are developers going to have better tools, what else will the internet be integrated with, and so on.
    I'm sorry, but I still hold the firm theory that computers are only as smart as the people who program them. And I know a lot of programmers. None of them know how to tie their shoelaces, which is nothing against anyone here. I like to tie shoelaces, actually, so consequently I don't mind picking up after my smarter-than-freakin' Einstein fiance.

    I consider it my job in life. That, and knitting socks for my cat.


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