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    Internet Explorer 7 is released!

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    What's your opinion of it so far? I've been testing IE7 since the RC releases. I don't see much difference with the official version except that it probably feels a little faster. Overall Firefox still seems faster for my rather outdated computer though, especially opening multiple tabs. With a faster computer I may be able to enjoy IE7 more, but right now, Firefox is still my man!
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    "IE7 day one, bug one"

    Can anyone corroborate?
    (I'm Mac-based today)

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    I haven't played around with it yet, and the installer to the betas and release candidates crashed (the "dump memory and cold restart" type of crash) so I couldn't install it. What little playing around I've been doing has been on a friend's computer.

    Edit: The installer still crashes my comp
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    Quote Originally Posted by WA View Post
    What's your opinion of it so far? I've been testing IE7 since the RC releases. I don't see much difference with the official version except that it probably feels a little faster. Overall Firefox still seems faster for my rather outdated computer though, especially opening multiple tabs. With a faster computer I may be able to enjoy IE7 more, but right now, Firefox is still my man!
    Me, too Admin WA.

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    I think it's a HUGE step forward for IE, and one that puts it very, very nearly into the "not nearly as good as Firefox was about a year ago" category. I don't like the window layout - and the lack of control I'm given over it, I'm unimpressed by tabbed browsing, I still don't trust the security, and I'm just waiting for all the proprietary add-ons and non-standard code extensions to surface, that I just KNOW they've put in there. It's not going to make my job any easier, and it doesn't look like it'll make much of a difference to anyone's surfing habits. A waste of time if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Posters View Post
    "IE7 day one, bug one"

    Can anyone corroborate?
    (I'm Mac-based today)
    I cannot corroborate that bug. I updated to IE7 and get no such issues (had already tested on IE7RC1). On a closer look at the code he was using there is a space in the doctype that shouldn't be there. IE7 only works in its standards compliant mode if the doctype is valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Aerospace_Eng_ View Post
    I cannot corroborate that bug. I updated to IE7 and get no such issues (had already tested on IE7RC1). On a closer look at the code he was using there is a space in the doctype that shouldn't be there. IE7 only works in its standards compliant mode if the doctype is valid.
    The originator of that bug report states that the code which was actually used did not have the space (and that the space appears only in the on-page code sample). Additionally, he states that the bug appears in all tests he's done.

    I'm not doubing your veracity, just trying to get to the bottom of whether or not the IE7 Zoom bug exists and under what conditions. (I don't think it's a standards mode vs quirks mode issue.)

    Fwiw, here's the thread discussing the presence of the bug.
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    I dunno if anyone's seen this yet, but..

    http://slashdot.org/articles/06/10/19/1326247.shtml

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    I could have sworn I checked this yesterday in IE7 (not RC1) and nothing happened. Now its happening.
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    ZOMG!! I've found a feature in IE7 that I actually like AND dont have in FF or opera - when you go to a page with an rss feed - the little rss icon lights up and you can view the feed or subscribe. I like that - all the rss extensions for ff seem to be scrolling tickers or sidebars
    I have the BBC news dropdown that I tihnk comes with FF - I'd like to add more like that, if only I could figure out how


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    Nevermind - just found noticed that FF has been doing it all along - I just never noticed - my live bookmarks is about to start overflowing muahaha - and my work productivity is going to plummet!
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    Time to start developing for IE7 seriously now. . . lol

    Actually, I'm glad about the CSS, PNG and security improvements. It makes development much easier. With many users having automatic updates on by default (not knowing how to turn them off and get rid of that annoying alerter), they'll get IE7 automagically, so that means IE6 should be on its way out the door rather soon.

    I'm warming up to Opera 9 though. . . I like Firefox, but Opera is just so fast in Windows! I also enjoy the customisability (is that even a word?) of Opera as well. The only thing I dislike is the fact that it doesn't have .net and .org domain completion by default like Firefox. Oh well, I just set it myself. :P

    Also, for those who haven't seen them yet:
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    A downside to IE7 is that not everyone will be able to use it. Specifically those still running Windows 98 or even 2000. Only XP and newer gets IE7.

    So, yes, through automatic updates, the newer systems will get IE7 fairly quickly (not counting those who decline or block the update, such as corporate environments), but with the older computers, IE6 will (unfortunately) be around a long time yet.

    For what it's worth, I'd personally like IE6 to disappear quickly, bu it's not going to be too soon, so we have to continue supporting it for a couple more eyars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Palin View Post
    A downside to IE7 is that not everyone will be able to use it. Specifically those still running Windows 98 or even 2000. Only XP and newer gets IE7.

    So, yes, through automatic updates, the newer systems will get IE7 fairly quickly (not counting those who decline or block the update, such as corporate environments), but with the older computers, IE6 will (unfortunately) be around a long time yet.

    For what it's worth, I'd personally like IE6 to disappear quickly, bu it's not going to be too soon, so we have to continue supporting it for a couple more eyars.
    This is why I will not download IE7. From what I've read about using more than one IE on a PC, IE7's installed files and registry keys may affect IE6's rendering. I don't want to take that chance, so I'll probably stick to IE6 when I reinstall Windows (I've been planning it for about a week now).
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    I would say the fact ie7 makes changes to things that standalone ie6 uses as well is a way overblown problem. Microsoft made Virtual PC free, so all you need is a copy of Windows to install on it.
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