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    Real World UI's

    I hadn't considered tangible objects as being UI's, until reading this rather humorous article: The British School of User Interface
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    LOL
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    Although it must be said that that is the fastest diesel train in the world, so, it's not all bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Error 404
    Although it must be said that that is the fastest train in the world, so, it's nott all bad
    Not quite the fastest in the world. The latest survey (2003, they're biennial so expect a new one this year) places UK in seventh place. Japan and France have had a steady first and second place since 1997 with quite a margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liorean
    Not quite the fastest in the world. The latest survey (2003, they're biennial so expect a new one this year) places UK in seventh place. Japan and France have had a steady first and second place since 1997 with quite a margin.
    Hehe... My mistake, fastest diesel train in the world, a Japanese Maglev is the fastest overall, and the fastest railed (in other words not floating ) is the TGV Atlantique, a record set in 1992, although a more modern TGV could go faster than the Japanese Maglev, you need a whole LGV (Line ŗ Grand Vitesse) to be clear, in other words, only after it has just opened, the problem is, none of the latest ones to open could be used for a high speed run, so, you'll have to wait till LGV Est opens before France rightly gets the record back.

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    FYI - the reason why traditional british trains don't have handles on the inside, is that according to the railway bye-laws, you're not supposed to open them yourself. You're supposed to call for a conductor to come and open it for you.

    Until very recently, if you opened a train door yourself and fell out, hurting yourself, you had no liability claim against the railway company, because ... you're not supposed to open the door yourself.

    But those trains don't appear much anymore - only on low-profit rural lines. Most trains have star trek swooshing doors now. If you get on a Virgin Pendolino (intercity, such as london to birmingham) they have a wireless network on them

    We could have faster trains ... we have the trains, it's just the track hasn't been upgraded, and possibly never will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brothercake
    But those trains don't appear much anymore - only on low-profit rural lines. Most trains have star trek swooshing doors now. If you get on a Virgin Pendolino (intercity, such as london to birmingham) they have a wireless network on them
    It's only Virgin with those nice new Pendeolinos, but they're electric unlike the HST in that photo, so a more sensible comparison would be the Voyager/Super Voyager, which have the engines under the floor, making them louder and less smooth, although the high quality seats make up for that... Those of us who live on the east coast, served by GNER, still have those as their diesel trains, going north of Edinburgh/Glasgow, although the difference is that we've got better track over here, which makes both about equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothercake
    We could have faster trains ... we have the trains, it's just the track hasn't been upgraded, and possibly never will be.
    Well with the state of Britain's railways, I can't see that they will ever be upgraded enough to run some of the world's fastest trains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothercake
    We could have faster trains ... we have the trains, it's just the track hasn't been upgraded, and possibly never will be.
    Sounds like something our IT-department would say: "We made state of the art multimedia applications but the network can't handle the volumes"
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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel
    Well with the state of Britain's railways, I can't see that they will ever be upgraded enough to run some of the world's fastest trains.
    We run the fastest diesel in the world :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Error 404
    We run the fastest diesel in the world :P
    True - but the standard of maintainance on our railways is not as high as it should be. Remember what caused the Paddington Rail Crash?

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    I blame the tories ... but that's another story
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    Quote Originally Posted by brothercake
    I blame the tories ... but that's another story
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    Hmm, let's not get sidetracked into railroads and UK politics.

    I remember encountering a site about replacing the "idiot-proof" UI concept with an overall "user-proof" UI concept, with a dozen real-life UI examples and even more programming examples. I can't seem to find it in my bookmarks or through Google, though. Anyway, it had nice examples of small things, like a digital camera with small ridges that made it natural to put your fingers in the right places; or with the example of how some jumpstart cables for cars had evolved. (I don't remember what brand, but it was absolutely impossible to connect in a way that might hurt the battery, unlike the regular red-and-black battery clamp jumpstart cables.) An example from the computer world was the autosaving of not-yet-saved files in such a way that the program at next startup would recover as much as possible of the file. (WordPerfect was that example)

    These aren't things that proofs against the incompetent users (fool-proofing). These are the things that make it harder for the competent users to make mistakes.
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    Ah, it seems we're discussing the field of Human Factors Design...

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