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    INFO domain - Identity Thefts?

    Hope this is the right forum and its not been brought up in another thread.

    That aside, I was wondering if anyone here has an info domain registered by their registrar using their private information (whois) without their permission?

    I have a domain (magdeline.com) with namecheap and (magdeline.info) has been registered using my private information without my permission by eNom. I found this when I ran a a http://whois.cc/domainame.info

    I'm very upset about it. They should have seek my permission first. I have since complain to namecheap and purchased a whoisguard subscription to protect my whois information.

    I was wondering if anyone here is affected by this 'promotion' by Enom.

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    as far as i know, it's standard to be registered in a whois-db, and most registars will charge extra to make an 'anonimus' registration. (so a promotion would be to not publish your details) Wether they did it without your permission --> are you absolutely sure you didn't pass any screen where you agreed on some terms that included publishing whois-data?

    If you are worried about having your personal details published, then just enter some bogus contactinfo. (I usually live in "Cave 16, Tasmania" or so). The whois db is simply to allow others to cotact you, so if you don't want that, just enter 'check@my.site.to.email.me' or whatever, but don't pay extra to have your contact-data hidden in a contact-data-db.
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    yup. very very sure that I didn't give permission. The company who registered the INFO domain isn't even my domain registrar. However, my domain registrar is a reseller of eNom (the company).

    There's an article about this mass registration of INFO domain. Article

    I asked around and I'm not the only one who was shocked to find an INFO domain registered with my details and have no knowledge of it. I have since purchased a whoisguard service that 'unlist' my whois information. However, even with this service, would not have prevented eNom from registering another info domain with my details. I'm assuming that since my domain registrar is a reseller of eNom, my personal information are still send to eNom to register the domain.

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    after reading that article, i understand what you mean. You had the .com and eNom has now simply (without your knowledge or consent) registerd the .info domain with you as a registrant and your details in the whois-db.

    Very sneaky indeed, specially because you can register .info's for free at verious companys. I does indeed sound like a privacy-breach to me + it's simply absurd that they register a domain in your name without your knowledge.

    But if you are the registrant, then you are the owner of the domain, so then you should be able to alter your registrant-details, right?
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    Is it not fraud, i.e. Fraudulent inpersonation of a person to gain goods. E.g. a criminal using a stolen card etc.


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    its a bit of gray area since the registrant is officially you with your details as the owner of the domain. Alot of people were screaming about identity thefts and some threatened lawsuits. However, I have not heard anyone actually sue the company for it. *shrugs*

    According to a topic I saw on WHT Forum, eNom is going to release all domains to the owners within some weeks. I haven't got mine yet but I'll be sure to delete it the moment I get it. The notice does make me feel better but I'm still quite upset they can get away with this and the fact that there's no promise this won't happen again.

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    This sounds like a customer service gone wrong... and the thing that has gone wrong is their not asking you before doing it, not that they in fact did it.

    As I understand it, they have registred a domain in your name (effectively making you the owner, not them) without charging you anything (you are already the owner - I don't think they could legally charge you for that registration, nor can they cancel it without your consent), and probably without being charged for getting them in the first place. In short, they have gifted you a domain, for the duration of the registration.

    Whether their use of your registration data is illegal or not depends on the terms of your original agreement with them, but as you have already given your consent for adding this data to the whois database for your original domain, I think they might actually be in the clear when it comes to this.
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    Thumbs down Identity Theft

    Hi Everyone,

    Someoone used my private information to register a .info domain in my name and address. I own a .com domain by the same name.

    Can someone tell me how i can catch hold of whoever is responsible for this?

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    Sanjay

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjayadya
    Hi Everyone,

    Someoone used my private information to register a .info domain in my name and address. I own a .com domain by the same name.

    Can someone tell me how i can catch hold of whoever is responsible for this?

    Thanks
    Sanjay
    Hi Sanjay (and everyone else)...

    I have a .com and a .org domain which sipience (enom) registered the .info domains in using my name as the owner. They were running a search engine on them which only showed sponsored links... so basically they were using my name to earn themselves money.

    Not Happy!!!!

    So.... after checking around, I found that people who used the ICANN dispute resolution process would end up having the .info domain registration suddenly changed showing enom as the owner. Not wanting this to happen, I went to my current registrar and effectively "stole" the domain from them. They listed me as the owner... so I decided to own it. It cost $20US... but knowing that I've stuck it to them makes it priceless.

    For more info... check out www.farrowgalleries.info

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    eNom & Resellers VS the FTC

    I have also had eNom, through reseller CheapDomainNames.com (CDN), take my info and set up two unauthorized domains.... through another reseller: Sipence.com.

    There are some steps you can take without cost... see 1 2 3 below.

    There is fraud, misrepresentation, trademark infringment, and intent to profit:

    I went to the unauthorized "info" sites they had set up in my name. They used a FRAME w/ javascript to insert my web site (.com) on their server. The URL shows the .info so it appears as their content... it is not theirs ... It's Mine.

    Some things to look for:
    The email I received from CDN for "renewal" of the unauthorized .info sites came through eNom's servers. This is intent to profit.

    When I renewed my official sites in August of 2005, the .info sites were not listed on my account with CDN -- even though Sipence has registered them in 2004. When I went to transfer my official domains, there were the two .info sites.... I did not change them in any way, shape or form.

    I had also updated my contact data when I renewed my official sites... if the .info domains had been there in Aug 2005 -- the contact data would have been updated at the same time.... the .info contact data is OLD data. So the .info domains were not there until after renewal of my official sites.

    1. File report online with the FTC (Federal Trade Commission). (2000 characters max -- that includes dashes, periods, spaces)

    2. File a report online with the BBB if you aren't afraid of letting eNom know you filed. Doesn't seen to have character limits. Also, you have a chance for rebuttal if eNom replies. I don't know if eNom would see the rebuttal.

    3. File a report online at ICANN... NOT the ones that cost money. There are two differenct online forms on the ICANN site for complaints about a registrar and for fraud.

    Using a word processor before going to the sites is helpful.

    Too bad we can't have some kind of class action for this... My email was almost word for word per this suit and citation involving an eNom reseller:

    SEE: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/12/domainreg.htm

    CITATION: Civil Action No. 03 CV 10075 Federal Trade Commission, Plaintiff VS Domain Registry of America, Inc., Defendant. Complaint for Permanent Injunction and Equitable Relief.

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    eNom & Resellers + FTC

    Also, view the SOURCE on the .info site/s. You'll see that they are putting your site in their frame on their server. That is misrepresentation and fraud... if you did not "renew" the unauthorized sites.

    The source code probably contains -- as of this date:

    /?a8734haka8dr781346=true

    Put quotes around it and do a google -- 20,000 plus? Whoa! That's a lot of intent to profit.

    If you "renewed" then that is still profiting from their previously unauthorized use.

    BTW, I am not a lawyer... but I am doing research into the best way to approach one with this. Also, looking into an Ethical congressional leader who may be able to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcck L
    Also, view the SOURCE on the .info site/s. You'll see that they are putting your site in their frame on their server. That is misrepresentation and fraud... if you did not "renew" the unauthorized sites.

    The source code probably contains -- as of this date:

    /?a8734haka8dr781346=true

    Put quotes around it and do a google -- 20,000 plus? Whoa! That's a lot of intent to profit.

    If you "renewed" then that is still profiting from their previously unauthorized use.

    BTW, I am not a lawyer... but I am doing research into the best way to approach one with this. Also, looking into an Ethical congressional leader who may be able to help.
    How exactly are they intending to profit? If anything they are costing themselves money. They have registered the domain on your behalf, at no cost to yourself and are basically giving you a free domain.
    If it is registered in your name then you own it and can do whatever you like with it.
    Basically your registrar is making sure that you get the .info for your domain before anyone else. If you dont want it then you dont have to renew it.
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    eNom & Resellers + FTC

    Yes, eNom does pay to register.... they get a special deal, so it's only an initial out-of-pocket - "chump change" - they want a bunch of "chumps" to "renew."

    How can they profit? Here's a real example of how:

    I registered "My Domain Dot Com" in 2003 via Cheap Domain Names.com (CDN).

    CDN is an eNom reseller.

    I renewed "My Domain Dot Com" through CDN in 2004 & 2005. These domains reside on my own server.

    Meanwhile, in 2004, another eNom reseller -- Sipence -- registered "Domain Dot Info" using My Contact Information. I did Not know about this. Nor did I authorize them to do so.

    CheapDomainNames sent me an email about three weeks after I had renewed "My Domain Dot Com." The email was as follows (I altered my personal data to post it here) -- stay with me here -- there is a point:

    """
    Dear "Domain Dot Info" holder:

    The following domain names and services in your account 'My Dot Com' are scheduled to expire soon and will be discontinued:

    Service Expire Date Description
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Registration 09-00-2005 "Domain Dot Info"

    Please be aware that if your domain name or service is discontinued, any email, website, or other services that were associated with it may be affected.

    You can extend your domains and services by doing the following:

    1. Go to http :// www. cheap domain names.com.
    2. Login to your account.
    3. Go to the domains and services you wish to extend.
    4. Go to the auto-renew settings for the domains and services.
    5. Select the appropriate option to have the domains and services automatically renew.
    6. Save your changes.

    After setting your domains and services to renew, we will process the renewal order and attempt to extend the domains and services for you.

    If you have any questions, please reply to this e-mail. Thank you for using our domain name services.

    Sincerely,
    CheapDomainNames.com
    """

    There was NOT a "Domain Dot Info" listed in 'My Dot Com' account when I renewed "My Domain Dot Com" in August 2004 or 2005.

    They profit when people go to "renew" a domain they never agreed to. I was told that I had received an email in 2004, offering me a free "Domain Dot Info" for a year. CheapDomainNames did not send me an email 2004. IF, Sipence did, I considered it spam and probably deleted it. I did Not respond to any offers of this sort.

    I did some researching, found out that eNom, Inc. -- the registrar officially licensed by ICANN -- owns, "contracts," the resellers.

    eNom intends to profit by sending out "renewals" to all persons they set up with "Dot Info" domains -- and some will/have responded by "renewing" WHAT THEY DID NOT SIGN UP FOR. If eNom -- & resellers -- have registered 20,000 plus domains at $15.00 per.

    Sorry for screaming...

    There's more.

    The email sent to me from CDN came through eNoms servers.

    My intellectual property is being misrepresented via framing and Javascript. If I go to the "Domain Dot Info" they set up, "My Domain Dot Com" is there in all it's glory, my hard work, sitting on Their Server in a frame. The URL in the address bar is "Domain Dot Info" not "My Domain Dot Com." By Law, that is Misrepresentation, Fraud. I am the only one legally able to use - and authorize use, of Derivative Content -- because it's mine.

    If I had forms set up on "My Domain Dot Com" -- for my customer's to enter their data -- It Is Possible for eNom/resellers to harvest the data being sent from Their Server.

    eNom/Resellers can insist all they want that I authorized them to do it, but I did Not.

    Domain Name Registry of America aka eNom violated the law and were held legally liable by the FTC. If you follow the links I provided in my other posts, and read the information, you will see that the email sent to me by CheapDomainNames copies the DNR wording format.

    http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/12/domainreg.htm

    What eNom is doing is illegal, against the law. If no one complains, nothing gets fixed.

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    enom & Resellers + FTC

    Also,

    Unauthorized use of My Contact Information is Identity Fraud on the part of eNom/resellers.

    I DID NOT CONSENT to the "free" domain. Do not want it, did not authorize it.

    They control the scripting that misrepresents my site on their server... I have no way to remove this scripting. They set it up, they should remove it.

    That an authorized ICANN registrar, eNom, can get away with this is beyond me.

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    For every person that is pissed off about this theres probably at least 1 who is happy. Do you know how much money some companies pay to 'watch' domains that they want so they can grab them the instant they become available?
    In registering the .info on your behalf they have prevented anyone else from getting that domain before you. If you dont want it, then dont renew it. It will expire and the problem will solve itself.

    You say you didnt agree to this but can you in all honesty say you read (and preferably kept a copy of) every single word of all t&c and agreements that you e-signed when you registered your domain?
    Just because you werent aware of it doesnt necessarily mean you didnt agree to it.

    As for them being able to harvest form data, well so can your host (and if you host with the same place you registered your domain with then the point is moot.)

    TBH I really doubt they are breaking the law, if they were then they wouldnt be so open about it - the domains were registered a year ago, there are articles and news stories about it, its controversial but if it was law breaking then they wouldnt announce it.

    If they had broken the law someone would have done something 12 months ago when they announced that they had done it.


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