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    SPAM filters, losing the battle???

    I just got this email today...

    Hey Graves,

    I haven't heard from you in awhile and just wanted to catch up.
    What are you doing now? How's work going? I've been really busy
    lately, haven't really had much time to do anything My job has
    me working like 80 hrs a week, flying back and forth from London to New York.
    Well I gotta run, just hit me up when you get a chance.

    See ya,

    Tyree Graves


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    Of course the link (removed) was to a "increase your size" site, but I was amazed. This had to be one of the most well formed spams I've ever seen. It got past my spamassassin, which I set to be VERY restrictive. I usually like to see what gets past, and this one just struck me as odd. Very personal, normal message with a link. The only "spam-like" thing about it is the jumble words at the bottom, but had those not been there, I would most likely, not even known it was spam. (Other than the fact that it was from some one I don't know).

    Just thought I'd share.

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    I'm beginning to think the only good solution to spamming is assasination of the spammers.
    Check out the Forum Search. It's the short path to getting great results from this forum.

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    Yeah, I haven't found anything that wins -- We've taken the policy at work to remove any bounce emails or useless aliases -- if you spell my email wrong, it goes into a black hole. It's cut our spam down by 10,000+ a week (and that's with a 20 person company), but we may potentially lose contacts. It's a sacrifice we've had to take since just about everything wasn't working.

    We tried 'Spam Arrest', which blocked all emails unless they verified by clicking a responder. But that also required me to go through every email we received and attempted to verify as well important things... too time consuming.
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    What do you have your SpamAssassin set on? Mine is on 3 and have never got a spam email in thast account since I lowered it from 5.

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    I've got it set at 4 right now. It blocks about 97 - 98 % of my spam but that means I still get about 5 - 10 per day. Yes, I get that much spam! I've toyed around with settings and from what I can tell, 4 is very aggressive.

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    You may want to try setting it at 3...

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    I use SpamBayes and it's been a miracle - so far this year, out of an average 100 pieces of spam a day, only one piece has got through - one single email out of more than 20,000. And it hasn't mismarked a single good email either.

    But stay way from those online-validation based systems, IMHO, because they're completely unfair - when you use of those systems you're effectively making other people take responsibility for your spam, and it isn't their responsibility. I routinely ignore them - when I get one of those "please verify who you are" emails I just delete it.
    "Why bother with accessibility? ... Because deep down you know that the web is attractive to people who aren't exactly like you." - Joe Clark

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    That particular spam you got bcarl314, got past SpamBully the first time, but after I marked it as spam it never got through again. Ive been using SpamBully for about 2 weeks now and I normally get between 1200-1400 pieces of spam a day and the program has caught 99.36% of them so far with 3 false blocks. Not a bad ratio and has saved me a tonne of time wading through the spam everyday.

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    Geeze!

    I just use my websites email account, never gotten any spam and the spam assasin sais it's blocked 0 spam. It pays not to be part of a large organization

    And even my hotmail account doesn't get spam unlesss I sign up for something!


    But I uste to have an MSN account, their spam assasin got 98% of them, their were about 100 spam per day! But that's not much compared to your spam count!
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    There are some clever spammers out there. I'm getting them past my spam assassin also. It's not even getting flagged as spam. Not really looked into the headers or anything, but I'm assuming there's something in there that prevents them getting flagged?

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    I've had several which got past SpamAssain, but Mail marked as spam, still, better than all 1000 a day getting past...

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    For the first time in several months, an email got through Mail's Junk filter, on my account which does not have SpamAssain, it was
    From: adellachim@handbag.com
    Subject: Please Response
    Date: August 23, 2004 2:55:07 pm BST

    SIR/MADAM,

    IT IS WITH FULL HOPE THAT I WRITE TO SEEK YOUR HELP IN THE CONTEXT BELOW.I
    AM MRS.ADELLA CHIMINYA,THE WIFE OF THE LATE ADELLA.UPENYU WHO WAS MURDERED
    SOME TIME AGO IN HARARE-ZIMBABWE.I GOT YOUR CONTACTS THROUGH NEDERLANDS
    INFORMATION EXCHANGE I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT YOUR CAPACITY AND GOOD WILL TO
    ASSIST ME IN RECEIVING INTO YOUR ACCOUNT THE SUM OF US$18.5M(EIGHTEEN MILLION,FIVE
    HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS)ONLY,WILLED AND DEPOSITED IN MY LATE
    HUSBAND'S FAVOR FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES.

    DURING THE WAR AGAINST FARMERS IN ZIMBABWE AND FROM THE SUPPORT OF OUR PRESIDENT
    ROBERT MUGABE TO CLAIM ALL THE WHITE OWNED FARMS IN OUR COUNTRY,ALL THE
    WHITE FARMERS WERE ORDERED TO SURRENDER THEIR FARMS TO HIS PARTY MEMBERS
    AND HIS FOLLOWERS.MY HUSBAND WHO WAS ONE OF THE PROMINENT FARMERS DID NOT
    SUPPORT HIS IDEA SO THE PARTY MEMBER AND THE WAR VETERANS INVADED MY HUSBAND'S
    FARM,LOOTED AND BURN EVERYTHING IN THE FARM.AFERWARDS,MY HUSBAND WAS KILLED
    AS WELL.AFTER THE DEATH OF MY HUSBAND,MY CHILDREN AND I WERE LEFT WITH NO
    OPTION THAN TO RUN OUT OF ZIMBABWE BECAUSE OUR LIVES WERE IN DANGER.THIS
    MONEY IS CURRENTLY DEPOSITED IN A REPUTABLE SECURITY AND FINANCE COMPANY
    IN EUROPE AS PERSONAL EFFECTS,THROUGH THE HELP OF OUR FAMILY LAWYER.

    THE GOVERNMENT OF MY COUNTRY HAD EARLIER PLACED FOREIGN TRANSFER EMBARGO
    ON ALL OUR FAMILY MEMBERS,SEIZED ALL KNOWN LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL OUTFIT
    OF OUR BUSINESS EMPIRE.THE SITUATION HAS BEEN SO TERRIBLE THAT WE ARE VIRTULLY
    LIVING ON THE ASSISTANCE OF WELL WISHERS AND FEW SYMPATHIZERS OF MY LATE
    HUSBAND.FORTUNATELY,OUR FAMILY LAWYER HAD SECRETLY PROTECTED THE "PERSONAL
    WILLED" OF MY LATE HUSBAND AND HAS STRICTLY ADVISED THAT THE "WILLED" MONEY
    BE URGENTLY MOVED INTO AN ACCOUNT OF A TRUSTED FOREIGN PARTNER WITHOUT DELAY
    FOR SECURITY REASONS.IN VIEW OF THIS PLIGHT THEREFORE,I EXPECT YOU TO BE
    TRUST-WORTHY AND KIND ENOUGH TO RESPOND TO THIS CALL TO SAVE ME AND MY CHILDREN
    FROM THIS HOPELESS SITUATION.

    I HEREBY AGREED TO COMPENSATE YOUR SINCERE AND CANDID EFFORT TO THIS REGARDS
    IF YOU REACH ME THROUGH ( minyadella2000@yahoo.com )SO THAT WE CAN BOTH
    DISCUSS HOW THE FUND SHOULD BE TRANSFER OUT OF HOLLAND SINCE THE LAW OF
    NETHERLANDS, FORBIDS A REFUGEE(ASYLUM SEEKER) TO HAVE SUCH MONEY IN AN ACCOUNT.I
    AM FACE WITH DILEMMA OF INVESTING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE NETHERLANDS
    BECAUSE I WILL NOT LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME EXPERIENCE IN FUTURE SINCE
    BOTH COUNTRIES HAVE SIMILAR HISTORY.MOREOVER,THE NETHERLANDS FOREIGN EXCHANGE
    DOES NOT ALLOW SUCH INVESTMENT FROM ASYLUM SEEKERS.


    THANKS FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED CO-OPERATION.

    YOUR SINCERELY,

    MRS.ADELLA CHIMINYA


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