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    Bush and Google

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3298443.stm

    what do you think of it? Was that meant or is it just by chance?
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    Well, all I can say is that linking the words miserable failure over and over can cause a miserable failure on the part of google. Does this mean that google is a miserable failure ? No, I just shows how much of a miserable failure a miserable failure of a search can be if amiserable failure of a web programmer creates a miserable failure of a website!




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    I don't really like Bush very much, however, I wonder what Gore would have done on Sept 11th.

    "Bad Osama, Bad. Now let me slap your hand. That was mean..."

    At least Bush had the balls to fight back.

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    well my point is not to talk about politics... I'm just wondering if someone is behind that or if it just happened like that... What are the statistics to link those two words to that precise person?

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    It's called google bombing, and is actually a well known seo technique.

    Basically, Google ranks keywords based on their use in a web page (along with other criteria). If the page text is in <h1> tags, it gets a higher ranking than if it were normal text. Words that are linked, are usually ranked higher than non-linked words and so on.

    So, alot of people in their blogs linked the text "miserable failure" to Bush's bio, thus google thinks these words should be associated with him (Political comment: I couldn't agree more).

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    I see... thank you very much. I did not know about this practice. Very interesting. Thanx a lot bcarl314.

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    We have enough people here, we should try it .

    I know just the perfect search terms and page as well.
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    Who cares what Al Gore would have done, what your saying is jsut a hypothethis, what hs George Bush done? Has he got Ousama? Has he even given his hand a slap? Did he when Ousama was in the american hospital of Dubaļ in august 2001? Nope. You want pertinant news? Or just a bit of the truth? Have you forgotten what he USA has done since WW2?

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    Anyways, enough of politics. Shouldnt google take off this feature because its lets a minority choose what everyone else sees (like afre mentioned persons in previous paragraph. ok, now i'll stop)? Google seems to be leaning more to the profit side on the profit - services scale recently IMO (with google ads, sponsored ads etc) This isnt a bad thing, but its the best search engine out there and should stay it.


    edit: is it against policy to talk about politics here? i wasnt really shure when i started ranting. sorry
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    since there are no mods for this forum, I guess the person who starts a thread is supposed to kind of mod its own thread. So I will please ask people who post about this topic no to go into the political aspect of it, just the technical issue is interesting here.

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    hey mod

    You to will get off-topiced like for instance, let's take a minut to analyse the paralels betheen you and the miserable failure. Your names sound more a less the same, some tendency to dominate, order, ...

    I don't think this calls for any need to change the algoritme Google uses. I mean, all this realy proves is that these words are rarely used as (heigh weighted) content like a link-text + that there is a public that's intrested in this little joke.

    I don't feel like trying it, but if i would set up a few pages with links like "bouchel" that point to a bush bio, then it wouldn't take to long before the searchterm bouchel turns up the bush bio on top. I don't think more then a handfull of peoplewould be intrested.
    But try it the other way arround --> have the keyword "bush" turn up your bio or a "miserable failure" page. That would be realy fooling google.

    So there's nothing wrong with the google algoritme (in fact, if i'm not mistaking, google was the first that took in account how many sites linked to you, and it was this innovation that enhanced their search-algoritme and made their succes). It's true that you can get your page higher ranked but i'll let you try it for more commen used searchterms. Good luck !

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    Originally posted by raf
    hey mod

    You to will get off-topiced like for instance, let's take a minut to analyse the paralels betheen you and the miserable failure. Your names sound more a less the same, some tendency to dominate, order, ...
    lol you discovered who is behind that username!

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    Originally posted by bouchel
    lol you discovered who is behind that username!
    Yeah. I googled for it

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    Originally posted by raf
    Yeah. I googled for it
    si if you discovered my little dirty secret thanx to google, you're right about their algorythm... it's a pretty good one

    see? I had to change my username

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    Originally posted by whackaxe
    Shouldnt google take off this feature because its lets a minority choose what everyone else sees

    Actually, I takes quit a large number of sites to produce significant results like the one mentioned here. I doubt there are enough people in this forum to change it. We could try. Lets all make web pages linking the words "miserable failure" to Ronald Reagan's (or any other person you dislike) bio and see if we can make a difference. I doubt we'd even register.


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