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    Too much intergration between MSN messenger + Hotmail

    Is it just me but is there now too much intergration between hotmail and msn messenger?

    I think there is, as it does all sorts of stupid stuff you don't care about.

    What are anyone elses views/opinions on this matter?

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    Well, the fact that they keep trying to bump me off from using a 3rd party chat has pretty much stopped me from using messenger.

    It seems that MS likes to integrate most of their development. Which is a good idea from a development stand point. You can reuse more code that way. However, sometimes (an MS sees this all the time) you end up comprimising security because the code your using was designed for a specific application and opens up holes in other places.

    Plus you can end up with DoJ issues!

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    All i know is that MSN messenger forces me to look at Hotmail with IE.

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    What I hate is that everything in XP seems to start Messenger and the only way I've found to surf Messenger free is to find the executable and rename it so XP can't start it How nice of MS to make that nuisance so hard to escape.
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    Originally posted by Roy Sinclair
    What I hate is that everything in XP seems to start Messenger and the only way I've found to surf Messenger free is to find the executable and rename it so XP can't start it

    aaah thanks ill try that LOL

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    i don't like the fact that if I've got AIM open, and go to add a comment on user's blog hosted by AOL, it automatically logs me in with my AIM info.

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    I guess it kind of depends on if you take advantage of both. I use mesenger and hotmail for all my communications - I don't even have a real phone. So the integration is quite handy.

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    Originally posted by Roy Sinclair
    What I hate is that everything in XP seems to start Messenger and the only way I've found to surf Messenger free is to find the executable and rename it so XP can't start it How nice of MS to make that nuisance so hard to escape.
    goto: Start -> Run and type "msconfig" then you can alter what runs at startup. i fink u can stop messenger +

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    Originally posted by missing-score
    goto: Start -> Run and type "msconfig"
    Wow, great tool! Thanks!
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    Originally posted by missing-score
    goto: Start -> Run and type "msconfig" then you can alter what runs at startup. i fink u can stop messenger +
    Nope, anything that MS wrote that accesses the internet seems to start Messenger when it starts up. There's a way to uninstall Messenger which also works but then you have to make sure the OS doesn't install it again sometime when you're not expecting it.
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    also the undocumented messenger active x control in hotmail. hotmail uses it all th time to se if your contacts are online but don't even bother to tell anyone else how to use it
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    whackaxe some examples are as good as any. Look at how they use it, save the file and all the rest of it and you can use it on your machine, and you will be able to fiddle around and see what you can do.

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    yeh i know, but still its just M$ implanting things into IE and such to make thier 'experience' as smooth, userfrendly and complete as possible.
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    Originally posted by whackaxe
    also the undocumented messenger active x control in hotmail. hotmail uses it all th time to se if your contacts are online but don't even bother to tell anyone else how to use it
    The scripting aspect of the control used to be fully documented on MSDN. As far as I can tell, they pulled the docs after some vulnerabilities were released. However, it isn't hard to figure out the JS equivalents from the C++ reference, and many stuff they claim are not scriptable really are . I can still read/write buddy lists, send im's, freeze it, etc.


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