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    Senior Coder DanInMa's Avatar
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    why not to use w3schools

    http://w3fools.com/

    anyone seen this site yet?

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    sure. long long tim ago
    funny stuff though

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    Pity no one has time to expand the w3fools site - it is such a small sampling of the many antiquated things on w3schools that the two guys that own w3schools just haven't kept up to date. Given the number of topics they cover and how long it would take to keep each up to date they really need to employ a staff of a half dozen or more full timeers if they really want to keep their site up to date - rather than just treating it as a hobby.

    If they hadn't got such a misleading domain name then their site would be long gone by now - some sections of it are so out of date.

    Both sites suffer from not having enough people to properly maintain them.
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    I'm sure they'd be able to cover the costs of someone if they put an extra advert top right of their entire website.

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    After reading a bit of a rant elsewhere about W3Schools I had a go at their 'CSS Quiz' just for fun. All went well until Q20 - see the attached screenshot.

    I confess to thinking the answer was 'None of the above'. In fact the 'correct' answer is 1, but (and I had to look this up) the background attribute was deprecated in HTML4....

    Nuff said?
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    Use the W3C HTML Validator and CSS Validator to check your code and Firebug to see what css is applied to an element
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    old but still true

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    Quote Originally Posted by wlf View Post
    old but still true
    w3schools isn't - w3schools is old and becoming more and more false as the two guys that own the site are failing to apply the hundreds of weekly updates needed to keep the site current.
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    i think it is very good website for beginners because i have learned the basics of my html through this web site and i t cover all the related areas.

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    I've used w3schools.com in the past.
    Been a sign maker for 7 years. My business:
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    TheNewBoston generally provides superior learning material.

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    Never heard of TheNewBoston but I'll check it out, I've been 'learning' on and off from w3schools only. Are their certificate really bogus though??

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    i hadnt heard of newboston either until someoen linked thios recently on my jQueru facebook group :

    http://thenewboston.org/list.php?cat=32

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    I know the site its helped me out a few times when i was at college! which wasn't that long ago........ haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheB92 View Post
    I know the site its helped me out a few times when i was at college! which wasn't that long ago........ haha
    haha...true that...sites such as these always save our bums in college

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    Quote Originally Posted by john88 View Post
    haha...true that...sites such as these always save our bums in college
    Only because the colleges are still teaching how to write JavaScript for Netscape 4 and earlier browsers and are yet to upgrade their course to cover more modern browsers such as Internet Explorer Five.

    As long as you treat college JavaScript courses as history classes and not programming classes then the W3schools site is a perfect source of that historical information about JavaScript.

    With the many other languages the two guys cover on that site their material is a mix of programming and historical information and as long as you use a different source to work out which is which you will be able to make some use of what you learn there in programming after finishing your course - but only because the other languages have not changed as much as JavaScript has in the many years since most of those pages were last updated (two guys can only do so much in their spare time).

    JavaScript is currently undergoing yet another major transformation and will be a very different language again once IE8 dies so once that happens even more modern sites teaching JavaScript for IE5+ will need to undergo significant rewrites if they are not going to switch to being history courses.
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    Don't forget to start your JavaScript code with "use strict"; which makes it easier to find errors in your code.


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