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    New generation of Copyrighted CD's

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    For the first time in the United States, BMG Music will release a music CD that's loaded with anticopying protection, a move that opens a new round of technological experimentation for record labels.

    BMG division Arista Records will include "copy management" protections produced by SunnComm Technologies on soul artist Anthony Hamilton's new album, the company said Friday. Although the label has previously released promotional copies of various CDs with copy protection, this will be the first major test of consumers' reaction to the latest generation of the anticopying technology.

    "The consumer experience is BMG's top priority," BMG Chief Strategic Officer Thomas Hesse said. "Because of improvements in the…technology, it is now possible to offer consumers the level of flexibility to which they have become accustomed, while beginning to better protect our artists' rights."

    Though unlikely to signal an immediate flood of similar releases, BMGs actions do open a new chapter for the United States labels' flirtation with copy-proof CDs.

    Most major labels have said they are deeply interested in technologies from companies such as SunnComm and rival Macrovision, but they've been concerned enough about compatibility problems with various computers and consumer electronics, along with consumer backlash issues, to refrain from many releases in the United States.

    By contrast, Macrovision says elsewhere in the world--primarily Europe and Japan--more than 150 million discs have been manufactured with its copy-protection technology.

    The new generation of anticopying techniques is more sophisticated than early methods. Along with simple locks that prevent CD ripping and copying, the Hamilton disc includes computer-ready files that can be transferred to a PC, a Macintosh computer and many MP3 players.

    Unlike the MP3 files traditionally created from unprotected CDs, these "pre-ripped" files will be wrapped in their own digital rights management protections that keep them from being swapped online and restrict some other actions. Buyers will be able to burn three copies of these songs onto their own CDs, however. The disc will also provide a link that can be shared with other people, who can download copies of the album's music and then listen to it for 10 days.

    Analysts said the news did signal a more advanced round of experimentation but that it would likely be some time before large numbers of copy-protected albums were released in the United States.

    "I would think the industry would not want to do a major rollout now, given what's happening with the (recording industry's) lawsuits," said independent digital media analyst Phil Leigh, citing the Recording Industry Association of America's legal push against file swappers earlier this week. "That would be a second major aggressive action. I would think they would do these things one at a time." ...
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    i think its good technology, but the problem is that it will only be available (due to expense i'm guessing) to large record compaines who are the ones who exploit artists. a move by artists to get what they deserve should be next. one problem is people piping the music into their sound card and encoding under normal MP3.
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    Oh lord, here we go.
    Who is ready for this never ending circle of garbage?

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    I remember when they were trying to ban VCR's with the record feature.

    It's the same BS everytime -- they'll never be good enough, they'll never stop progression. One of us will always figure out a way to do it, this industry flies too fast.

    Just embrace the digital age, and market towards that. There is money in that idea... the conservatives are too afraid they'd lose their own control.

    Whatever. I'll be burning the next generation of technology in my hydro car's interactive computer consel
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    Unlike the MP3 files traditionally created from unprotected CDs, these "pre-ripped" files will be wrapped in their own digital rights management protections that keep them from being swapped online and restrict some other actions. Buyers will be able to burn three copies of these songs onto their own CDs, however. The disc will also provide a link that can be shared with other people, who can download copies of the album's music and then listen to it for 10 days.
    *cough* bull**** *cough*

    How are they going to prevent you from buring the file only 3 times? The only way would be to write their own CD buring software and their own data storage format.

    And the same for sharing it online.

    For every 1 programmer that is writing anti-copy software, 10 are writing a program to defeat it.
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    Originally posted by oracleguy
    *cough* bull**** *cough*

    How are they going to prevent you from buring the file only 3 times? The only way would be to write their own CD buring software and their own data storage format.

    And the same for sharing it online.

    For every 1 programmer that is writing anti-copy software, 10 are writing a program to defeat it.
    Agreed -- I wonder the same thing about Apple, though. I downloaded music from their iTunes apple store, and It said something that I could not copy it more than three times on three different stations. I figured I could keep dragging a new copy to a new workstation (either via network, email, or disk) and keep reworking it. Somehow, though, it does and I've yet to see around it.

    But you're right, there will always be a way. You can't stop it.
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    Yeah, I'm sure someone has figured out a way around it. Have you activly looked for one?
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    Originally posted by oracleguy
    Yeah, I'm sure someone has figured out a way around it. Have you activly looked for one?
    No, not aggressively -- but I gaurantee if there is one, it's hit the web already. Macintosh, however, is a rather small and loyal community, and sometimes it takes a bit of time. I'll look today
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    There are several ways around it. You can pipe sound output to an mp3 encoder, you can burn it to cd and then rip the cd, or you can use non-tracking file systems for copying, though the protection remains the same that way.
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    i think that the impact might still be significant cos you wront be able just to pop the cd into the drive and encode it. youll have to pipe it inot the spund card, then cut up the songs etc...
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    Not if you pipe one song at a time from the sound card to the encoder (if you pipe it you won't have to burn a cd, you can use iTunes to play the songs from harddrive).
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    Originally posted by liorean
    Not if you pipe one song at a time from the sound card to the encoder (if you pipe it you won't have to burn a cd, you can use iTunes to play the songs from harddrive).
    oh...err.... good point! still, youd have to be organiezd
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    Im sure they will put something in the registry to stop burning more than 3 x lol...

    Also whats stopping people from using a studio on their computer and use the sound out and sound in to record to a new file...

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    Nothing. You can do whatever you want with the raw sound data. The problem is that you'll have to recompress it, and add the metadata yourself, as you aren't doing a direct file conversion. You'll probably get some quality loss as well.

    In MaxOS, they have both the file system and OSX tracking files, but I wonder how they've solved that on Windows and FAT16/32. NTFS shouldn't be a problem, but how about FAT?
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    They can't stop the good ole fashioned way of putting a mic to your speakers and recording it


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