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    IE most used browser 2009

    IE is going to end the year on top...again.
    http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-yearly-2009-2009-bar

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    Yes. It's such a sad situation. But at least we can look forward to the next couple of years when that number will be slashed. Maybe one day we'll be rid of IE, the world's worst browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine View Post
    Maybe one day we'll be rid of IE, the world's worst browser.
    But maybe one day IE will be a respected browser thatís ahead of the game again in terms of standards compliance? Never say never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    But maybe one day IE will be a respected browser thatís ahead of the game again in terms of standards compliance? Never say never.
    IE9 won't be. According to Microsoft's IEBlog, IE9 will be slower than Firefox 3.5 (yes, 3.5) and won't support today's standards (2009), much less whatever holds 2 years from now.

    I missed my chance to respond to the title of this thread with the fact that the linked to chart also shows IE has lost another 10% or so market share and has lost about 8% market share every year for the past 5 years.

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    The point is that in 2009, IE is the most used browser. More people use IE than FF, Safari, Chrome and any other browser you can think of. IE usage doubles FF...nice.

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    DrDr; you're hiding your soap box again

    I think it's futile to keep on and on about it. I agree that it is less good than other browsers and that more people use the brand than the actual browser.

    I mean, if we compare the current version of IE with the current version of FF for example, FF wins it according to some stats. BUt then there is customer choice to factor in as well so let them use whatever they like and it shouldn;t make your day too bad.

    Another thing; I seem to recall hearing years ago that if any other browser/OS was as huge as M$ that virii and malware would be built to target them as well as to M$. If that is true then I think it may be a wiser move, to keep the preferred browsers away from the majority so that virus guys don't get any benefit from hitting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazz View Post
    I mean, if we compare the current version of IE with the current version of FF for example, FF wins it according to some stats.
    That's a different thread, not this one.
    BUt then there is customer choice to factor in as well so let them use whatever they like and it shouldn;t make your day too bad.
    Absolutely false! IE makes every web developers day bad.
    Another thing; I seem to recall hearing years ago that if any other browser/OS was as huge as M$ that virii and malware would be built to target them as well as to M$. If that is true then I think it may be a wiser move, to keep the preferred browsers away from the majority so that virus guys don't get any benefit from hitting them.
    Two problems with this. First, the assumption is that the other browsers are less secure than IE and equally as easy or difficult to attack. Second, why would any developer want users to use IE when IE is such a horrible browser to code for? No self respecting developer worth his salt would ever want any user to use IE. (And THAT is the whole point of my rant against IE which few people seem to want to understand.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandoe85 View Post
    The point is that in 2009, IE is the most used browser. More people use IE than FF, Safari, Chrome and any other browser you can think of. IE usage doubles FF...nice.
    Brandoe85... if your intent is tongue-in-cheek, and I'm going to assume it is, you ABSOLUTELY hit the mark and I am bustin a gut over here. I get you man! Post of the year nomination

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    bazz' post is brilliant, too:

    "I mean, if we compare the current version of IE with the current version of FF for example, FF wins it according to some stats."

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    Heh . Thanks.

    I reckon we (collectively speaking) have reached a stage where we need to differentiate between marketing waffle and reality. I am not a soap box person about browsers! But I don't understand the logic behind all things IE and current things FF or Safari or Chrome.

    Surely it is easy to realise that if IE brings out IE 7 after IE6, that IE6 is (to all intents and purposes), obsolete!! Likewise IE8 after IE7.

    So which bit of obsolete is unclear? OK so non-IT-savvy users may continue to use I6 or 7 but if they are 'our' clients why do we seem to shy away from enlightening them on the subject of best browser?? (or a choice even of those we recommend).

    After all - by being their IT person, there must be some level of trust and, with that; some influence/competitive advantage? That is a significant issue that many have brought up in previous posts. If the 'small guy' wants to compete alongside the big guy, why not provide stuff that the big guy doesn't or won't??

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    Things can change a lot. I remember when Netscape ruled and how hard we were trying to make our websites compatible with it. Especially its JavaScript support was very difficult to manage especially compared to IE. It is fortunate that we don't have to make our websites fully compatible with Netscape now.

    But for Firefox and Chrome it is not like that. I can make my sites fully compatible with IE, FF and Chrome with no extra effort. So, it is not a question for me which browser dominates now, as long as they obey standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torham View Post
    So, it is not a question for me which browser dominates now, as long as they obey standards.
    That leaves IE out. IE is 11 years behind all other browsers in modern standards and compliance.

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    As a hack web developer I can say I'll be happy once IE6 is no longer on anyone's radar. The issues with IE7/8 I've had to put hacks in for are pretty minimal. It seems M$'s attempts to proprietize the browser industry have failed and they are coming into line with the accepted standards. They're a long way off on 100% compliance, but it's much better now than it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine View Post
    That leaves IE out. IE is 11 years behind all other browsers in modern standards and compliance.
    You should learn to identify trolls :P.

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    Not saying which is better. However, many people in other countries use IE but they use older versions.

    Some of the older versions work better with active x and banking/payment software (as in Korea and Japan).

    Then in China with all the pirated windows, most everyone is using IE 6 (because they can't get microsoft updates)...thus a lot of the IE users outside of the US are still using older versions.


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