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    earth like planet

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...262484,00.html
    any body seen this i caught a quick glimpse on SKY News this morning whilst getting ready for work, what you think about it ? more life? or phoney crap lol

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    They found my home planet. Grrrr Must move it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rafiki View Post
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...262484,00.html
    any body seen this i caught a quick glimpse on SKY News this morning whilst getting ready for work, what you think about it ? more life? or phoney crap lol
    Who knows. The main point is that we can't reach that planet anytime soon.
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    Pluto's gonna be mad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookster View Post
    They found my home planet. Grrrr Must move it again.
    has this happened before?
    but seriously this is the closest any planet other than earth has come to being able to cope with life form with a tempreture of 0-40 degrees centigrade means the water would be liquid which is essential for any life form (even if it is flowers) i hope that NASA put in a hugh amount of money to research and develop a shuttle that can reach the planet before my time on earth is up

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    Quote Originally Posted by rafiki
    has this happened before?
    but seriously this is the closest any planet other than earth has come to being able to cope with life form with a tempreture of 0-40 degrees centigrade means the water would be liquid which is essential for any life form (even if it is flowers) i hope that NASA put in a hugh amount of money to research and develop a shuttle that can reach the planet before my time on earth is up
    Wow, so many many arguments come to mind right here.. sorry to be blunt dude - that's just bollocks. Liquid water a requirement? I guess for most carbon based life as exists on our lonely little planet. But who are you to discredit the possibility of carbon life existing in an entirely different manner, or the very real possibility of silicon based life for that matter? Why must life rely on good old Hydrogen at all? Hmm?

    And well, I think if we manage to get to those distances within any sort of reasonable time (without say the use of solar sails and cryogenics or something) then it won't be NASA that gets us there but some brilliant young physicist at some university somewhere.

    And flowers? Do you realise how complex they are? The discovery of bacteria is what we should/are aiming for!

    Just thinking about it, I'd much rather see money and research invested into terraforming.. Wouldn't it be awesome to terraform Mars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhtml View Post
    Wouldn't it be awesome to terraform Mars?
    I’ve seen a documentary some time ago where they philosopized how life on Mars could be once we - fruitful as we are - have multiplied, and filled the Mars, and subdued it.
    The conclusion was that due to the differences in size and mass of Earth and Mars within a reasonable amount of time (like a couple of hundred years or so) people on Mars would have mutated and become a significantly different “race” than people on earth. For example they would be much taller due to lower weight as result from the lower gravity. I can’t remember what else they were prognosticating, it has been too long ago. But it’s really interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    I’ve seen a documentary some time ago where they philosopized how life on Mars could be once we - fruitful as we are - have multiplied, and filled the Mars, and subdued it.
    The conclusion was that due to the differences in size and mass of Earth and Mars within a reasonable amount of time (like a couple of hundred years or so) people on Mars would have mutated and become a significantly different “race” than people on earth. For example they would be much taller due to lower weight as result from the lower gravity. I can’t remember what else they were prognosticating, it has been too long ago. But it’s really interesting.
    i say throw the crims up there, then we wouldnt be running out of jail space for a while 8-) LOL

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    Somehow I think it'd cost more to send them there then it would to just build bigger prisons. It's like the idea of sending garbage to the sun, its so much cheaper just to throw it in the ocean when nobody is looking - perhaps we should just do that to thin out jail populations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhtml View Post
    Somehow I think it'd cost more to send them there then it would to just build bigger prisons. It's like the idea of sending garbage to the sun, its so much cheaper just to throw it in the ocean when nobody is looking - perhaps we should just do that to thin out jail populations?
    thats harse unless were talking rapist murderers and child molesters

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    Well naturally we'll let the lesser criminals try their luck in the gladiator ring.
    [edit:] Argh, it's nearly 6am - the sun is rising so it's my bedtime..have to preserve my pasty white glow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel_g View Post
    Pluto's gonna be mad...
    Pluto was probably more mad when they decided that it was a moon not a planet at all, they castrated its status to bits with that decision. Serves it right for being tiny and not orbiting in a circle i say!

    As for the water requirement for carbon based life, water has some very special properties (for example everything else around it would be a gas at room temperature, or something like that) which I'm sure a chemist (one which studies chemistry rather than dispenses drugs) can tell you about. Personally I dropped A level chemistry and never took A level biology (but my brother is currently studying medicine in London)

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    I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. Water is a particularly polar molecule, it (quite obviously) has hydrogen bonds and requires a decent amount of energy to break (not say as much as an ionic/covalent). Are you talking about other molecules of the same class? There are so many possibilities as to what you could mean...
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    Lol!

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    Hate to burst your bubbles but they really can't even see the planet. They can just tell by the gravity of the planet making the star "wobble." Though I do believe their is a planet there as suggested by the evidence, it could easily be farther or closer away than we expect, as well it may have no atmosphere, or one like that at Venuses. As to the whole life thing, I think it would be cool, but we will just never know in our life time unless there is intelligent life out there sending radio waves out into space. But like mhtml said, who are we to say that they are made out of water, or use radio waves for that matter. I've always wondered, what if it wasn't bronze that we made use out of first, it was iron or some other element that is found in a natural ore, we might have different ways of transport, all are computers might be made out of different material. We only go by what we have learned from the past, we are a naive civilization. Though, yes life would be much more likely for us to find in a environment that contains water, but thats what we used to say about the sun until we found plants at the bottom of the ocean that lived of the chemicals that creaked out of the floor of the earth.
    I would much rather see money go into terraforming like said before. It would be cool to see a mini Earth grow and eventually prosper. It would be a great sign that we as a civilization will not destroy ourselves. It will be our first step in colonizing the galaxy!

    And yes there is life out there, that is smarter than us and life that is dumber. We live in a universe that is infinite and has infinite everything in it, so it has infinite life. We don't have infinite life on Earth so there must be life off earth. And if there is infinite life off earth then there must be both infinite life forms that are more complex/simpler and smarter/dumber than us.

    Thats it!


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