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    boxer_1 - that was not fair

    The original thread was "Use this thread to commemorate and remember 9/11. Pay your respects in your own way, including silence."

    Such a mandate implies political discussion.

    Pay your respects in your own way ... well my way is to honour and cherish the memories of the dead, while pouring scorn on the US-political agenda which is *directly* responsible for their deaths.

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    ill admit asking not to go on about poilitcal matters, but as the thread took a wider scope than the WTC/pentagon it was very normal
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    The intention of that thread was not for political debate. The intent of that thread was to COMMEMORATE the victims and REMEMBER them. It was not there for arguing about who did what and what country or people YOU think caused the situation.

    If you reread our forum rules you will see the very first rule which states:

    1.1) Always be respectful and polite when posting- There is absolutely no excuse to be rude, confrontational, or hostile when posting on CodingForums.com. This is a place where web programmers come together to solve problems, not create them. Flaming can get you banned.


    Those that were initiating a hostile discussion would have violated that rule. You can look at it this way, boxer prevented anyone from getting banned from these forums by not allowing the flaming to escalate.
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    Boxer handled it correctly, for two reasons:

    1) He sensed the general direction of the thread shifting towards potential bickering, and closed it before that could happen. A flame war is anything but paying respects to 9/11

    2) 9/11 has passed already, and since the thread was posted as an announcement, it's not inappropriate to close it just for the fact that it has served its purpose. Remember people, this is not the webmaster pit/lounge, where general, loose discussion is accommodated. Threads posted in the announcement forum are here to serve specific, time sensitive issues. Expect them to expire as well.
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    fair enough

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    Remember people, this is not the webmaster pit/lounge, where general, loose discussion is accommodated
    I'm fairly new here, and probably not the person who should suggest this (and maybe it has been done before). But why not have such a forum.
    Wouldn't it be nice to have a place where you can discuss anything. from politics to a new mission to Mars and beyond. I realize this is a place for codeing (otherwise it would be named www.generalchitchat.com) but there is life after codeing and why not here? I also realize that this would require alot from the mods to keep the spam and flameing to a minimal. but I'm also a member of other boards where they have such a forum and I must say, they are nice places to "hang out".

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    Originally posted by maes
    I'm fairly new here, and probably not the person who should suggest this (and maybe it has been done before).
    We had a "Webmaster's Pit" for a few years. It was wonderful. Then too many immature people ruined it, and it was removed.

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    I found the pit detracted greatly from the helpful parts back at WA. I was one of the main culprits too; I and many others ended up using it for random thoughts, often heated discussion drove people from the forum and often people were attracted to the forum simply to get into the negative aspects of the pit.

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    If you guys had some bad experiance with such a board, I can understand that you've removed it.

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    In yet another (most likely futile) attempt to bring back the pit, let me offer this thought.

    Is it not possible to create user groups in this forum? Could you not create a forum and assign only specific users to it? Then give the moderators the authority to accept / decline users access to that forum? Perhaps this would resolve the "I just found this forum and I'm going to post inappropriate comments" problem. Maybe allow only "Senior Members" an opportunity to apply, and then allow moderators to accept / decline their applications.

    Am I making any sense here, or is this just endless babble.

    Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the subject.

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    thats a good idea bcarl, or maybe you could allow everybody to enter the forum at the begging and ban anybody so that the user groes thinner untill it ends up only sensible users have acces?
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    I would start by allowing only senior members access, that way the casual "script kiddie" who visits once would not be able to post. Then proceed with the removals from there.

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    senior member is a bit high but member might turn out to be to low but i thin kthat would be good.

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    Selectively allowing access to a "Pit" has been considered, and I still am considering. As an example, someone mentioned only allowing senior members access. Potential problems for this include new comers posting "junk" just to up their post count and quickly graduate to this status. Also, VB currently doesn't have a mechanism for easily allowing category access by user groups (as far as i know), so administrating things can become messy.

    I'm not oblivious to the potential benefits of reintroducing the Pit, though I also watched from front row how it became anything but. Due to this I must proceed slowly on this issue. Bottom line, I'd like to see it back very much as well, and will should I come up with a formula I think will work. The last thing I want to do is bring it back, then have to shut it down again. A walk down through memory lane should explain why: http://www.codingforums.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010758.html
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    for the minute there are only 59 seniors so we they could be added to a user group (tell me that VB has user groups at least!) and any other seinors would be obliged to send a PM to George to ask for membership, which would give George the chance to see what the suer has benn posting (ie checking if it isnt spam or questions that have already been answred) and then add them. no?
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