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    "PM sent" replies in the Work Offers forum

    Just posting in regards to this announcement:

    http://www.codingforums.com/web-projects/announcements.html

    I have found, from experience, that in fact many good offers on the work offers forum, the posters don't know about the PM feature. I can attest, personally, to contacting someone several times via PM, only to get no response until after I posted in the actual thread "Please check your PM"

    Several times, I get emails from the OP saying "Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know I had 20 responses" or similar.

    So, In my experience, posting "PM Sent" or other seemingly useless messages, may in fact be necessary in the work offers forum. As some people simply don't know about PM and the little bold 5 isn't enough to draw attention.

    Just wondering what your thoughts are on that???

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    Hmmm interesting point, I hadn't really considered that to be an issue actually. A member can configure the pm setting in the "User CP" to notify them both by email and an alert box when they receive new pm- if done so it's hard to not know when you have new messages.

    Perhaps a workable solution would be just to try and get that pm notification feature out there to members, by way of another sticky in the Work Offers forum for example.

    I'm curious what other members think of this, whether those "pm sent" quick replies should be allowed in the Work Offers forum. Moving this thread to the Feedback public forum.
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    agree with bcarl. If the alert box can be disabled on user request will be better,
    Another alternative could be Unread: 5

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    I haven't picked up any work myself, so this isn't really for me. I'd have to agree with bcarl as well. Trying to teach someone that doesn't know how to use the software correctly is more difficult than just telling them to keep an eye on their threads. Another one may be that they have email subscriptions enabled, so they are sent emails with responses (I don't even know if we support that feature >.<, but you know what I mean). Instead of visiting the forums about the postings they simply check their emails to see if any responses have been added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fou-Lu View Post
    I haven't picked up any work myself, so this isn't really for me. I'd have to agree with bcarl as well. Trying to teach someone that doesn't know how to use the software correctly is more difficult than just telling them to keep an eye on their threads. Another one may be that they have email subscriptions enabled, so they are sent emails with responses (I don't even know if we support that feature >.<, but you know what I mean). Instead of visiting the forums about the postings they simply check their emails to see if any responses have been added.
    We already have this feature, you just have to enable it yourself however.
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    Hm, but the notifications are on by default, and therefore one must actively disable all automatic notifications to not receive them. I can’t remember that I had to activate the JS message about unread PMs?

    I personally found the “PM sent” messages a little annoying, too. Feels like saying “Me, me, here, take me, I was the first one! Don’t you other guys dare to reply, too!”

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    Hm, but the notifications are on by default, and therefore one must actively disable all automatic notifications to not receive them. I can’t remember that I had to activate the JS message about unread PMs?
    I just tried registering as a new member, and apparently, pm notification via email/ alert box are unchecked by default. I've just enabled them now. However, this doesn't extend to existing members that have these two notifications turned off by default. I could push the new settings to all members, so anyone who doesn't like them have to go back into the User CP to uncheck them. The question is, is that a good idea/ warranted?
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    No. A forced push is an inconvenience to nearly 8000 active members which seems like a big step just to convenience a few posters looking for help. I'd say enable email by default (for either PM's or replies, just let us know which) for new memberships is a good idea though.
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    Perhaps put up an announcement about the feature to spread awareness about the feature, encourage people to put it on if they need to be aware of their PMs, and also say that it is now the default for new users. I agree that pushing it on thousands of users should be avoided.

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    Just for PM's is good enough I think, when I get a new PM I get a javascript alert to ask me if I want to read it now if I say yes it then asks me to open in new window or current, doesn't anyone else get that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarl314 View Post
    Just posting in regards to this announcement:

    http://www.codingforums.com/announcement.php?f=47

    I have found, from experience, that in fact many good offers on the work offers forum, the posters don't know about the PM feature. I can attest, personally, to contacting someone several times via PM, only to get no response until after I posted in the actual thread "Please check your PM"

    Several times, I get emails from the OP saying "Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't know I had 20 responses" or similar.

    So, In my experience, posting "PM Sent" or other seemingly useless messages, may in fact be necessary in the work offers forum. As some people simply don't know about PM and the little bold 5 isn't enough to draw attention.

    Just wondering what your thoughts are on that???
    But surely, anyone who has recently posted, telling people to PM them, must expect a PM? I could understand if they weren't expecting it.

    If you were selling something on these forums, and you said "PM Me", you would check your messages wouldn't you? If you wouldn't then you can't be too serious about your sale. Just my opinion...

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    I think the reality is, in the work offers forum, you get a lot of people with "ideas" and they are not necessarily "technology experts".

    I have several clients, for example, that think IM = PM.

    Also, I've seen a lot of people come on these forums specifically to post a job, but that's the only post they submit.

    We have to keep in mind the audience imo. I can guarantee there are people who just come and post, then check that post a few times a week from their bookmarks. They don't bother checking PM, which is why I think that its important to alert the user, especially if you haven't seen a response in a few days time.

    Just my opinion.

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    The perception I'm getting on members who post in the Work Offers forum yet don't know to check/ how to check their pm for responses are new members, specifically, members whose very first post happens to be in the Work Offers forum. Assuming that's correct, the fact that I've now enabled new pm notification (both via email and a JavaScript alert message) for all new registrations should have an impact on this "issue" moving forward.
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    I would still like that announcement to read something like...

    Please refrain from posting "PM sent" messages unless you have sent a PM and have not received a return receipt or reply within x days.


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