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    Is Flash dead

    Hi

    It's now April 2013 and HTML5/CSS development has taken off big time within the IT industry.

    However...

    I know this type of discussion has probably been exhausted, apologies for raising it up yet again, but my serious question is, given there seems to be diminishing support on mobile devices in particular for Flash:

    1) Will Adobe continue to develop and support Flash ?

    2) Is there still a demand for Flash and Action Script developers out there any why ?

    Thanks..

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    1) Will Adobe continue to develop and support Flash ?

    Yes, it will. Please check adobe milestones here http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe...es-roadmap.pdf

    2) Is there still a demand for Flash and Action Script developers out there any why ?

    I think you mean anyway. I believe yes, as long facebook apps (and games) will continue to support it. Many of the most succeeded games in FB are writeen and maintained in flash. Also, with Air 3.6 and stage3d you have the tools to produce really fast mobile applications for ios and android, succesfully targeting app store and google play accordingly. As a conclusion, I do believe that flash is not dead yet.

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    Is Flash Dead..cont

    Hey thanks for getting back with such a comprehensive answer !

    I'm intrigued about Air 3.6 and stage3d - help me understand - how will these tools enable a Flash developer to deply to an iOS platform >

    Looks to me Flash will be a specialty tool for games and quality video, and HTML5/CSS3 for mobile and web apps.

    Cheers..

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    Flash is an application development tool. This application can be anything from a small banner going to a site onclick, a facebook game, a multiplayer 3D RPG, a lab simulator ... you name it!
    It has a tremendous library support and it can do actually everything.
    Air can export to .ipa (iphone/ipad application) and you can then submit to appstore.
    A classic sample of a big hit written in flash is Machinarium and another one is angry birds for facebook.
    For more details about Air you can see here http://www.adobe.com/products/air/fe...es_sl_new.html

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    No, but it's certainly becoming less relevant.

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    Flash is one of the fallbacks for web browsers that do not yet support the proposed but not yet standard video tag:

    For example the correct way to code a video tag so that it works for as many visitors is possible looks something like this:

    Code:
    <video  width="300" height="200" poster="movie.jpg" controls>
            <source src='movie.mp4'
    type='video/mp4; codecs="avc1.4D401E, mp4a.40.2"'>
            <source src='movie.webm'
    type='video/webm; codecs="vp8.0, vorbis"'>
            <source src='movie.ogv' type='video/ogg; codecs="theora, vorbis"'>
            <object data="flashmovie.swf" width="300" height="200" type="application/x-shockwave-flash">
                  <param name="src" value="flashmovie.swf">
                  <param name="quality" value="high">
                  <param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF">
                  <param name="wmode" value="transparent">
                  <param name="pluginurl"
    value="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer">
    <p>Fallback content for browsers that don't support either video or flash goes here.</p>
            </object> 
    </video>
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    I feel JavaScript is killing Flash day by day.

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    Well, I'll just say this. Flash is not dead, but the way we use Flash just needs to be reallocated a bit.

    I think the days of using it for the web like 2advanced will probably take the biggest hit, especially considering stats saying that the mobile web will outnumber desktops within 2 years. And if you use a Flash website, you better have a good reason for it and a vast game plan for handling devices that don't support it...which goes back to mobile outnumbering desktop in due time. If the ends don't justify the means on that type of development, I wouldn't bother with it. The industry truly has to see something groundbreaking and ONLY in Flash in order for that scene to make a comeback.

    To Flash's benefit, places like YouTube still primarily use Flash video for desktop viewers. Also, client work for Flash is not plentiful, but it's still out there specifically for web based e-learning courses like Ford, Chrysler, etc. Doing Flash coursework in HTML5 and converting true Flash-like animations and functionality is absolute MURDER, making Flash the much easier route in this case.

    And if Flash is dying, my phone apparently didn't get the message. Over the past 6 months, I received numerous calls on Flash development positions, so the demand is certainly out there.
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    +1

    as long as adobe supports AIR, flash will be my #1 platform of choice

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    It will be killed by youtube the day it stops using it.
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    I personally don't use flash in my project.

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    Considering that HTML5 isn't a standard yet, it will be a while until everything can be supported by all browsers.

    It really comes down to how well all of these scripts can be supported by either application interface. Flash is also rather easy to learn since shapes, gradient, and text can be developed with or without code. The browser is only dependent on one element to support the use of Flash and that is the Shock-Wave plug-in.

    The browser is dependent on how compatible it is with the JavaScript & CSS that can be supported for HTML5.

    To me it would be a long while until full compatibility can be considered for HTML5 to replace Adobe Flash.

    HTML5 can still be used as to improve the websites design & interactivity for now.

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    Hi.

    I fancy Flash is currently streets ahead still; in particular for 3D animation.

    I have just been working on a HTML5/CSS3 site using Transforms/Transitions, To achieve a scaling effect, custom-made and specific in behaviour, took a disproportionate amount of time. Interesting the number of CSS3 Transition generators there are to compensate for the time-consuming effort required to calculate and development simple animations by hand.

    Problem is, here in the UK, companies are not using Flash so it seems, apart from eLearning and Gaming apps.

    Looks like the eventual death of an incredibly simple to use yet very powerful tool, great shame. Daft in fact, defies common sense!

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    way back 6 or 7years ago., flash banner, flash intro for website are always on my project.. but not this day..


    flash banner and intro are totally outclassed by javascript..

    anyway I dont know how to create games using flash. hehe


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