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    I have been using Norton 2002 on my machine as well as my parents for several years now. Once again it is time to renew my subscription, just wondering if anyone has found any better (maybe cheaper?) products? I've seen posts on AVG but have not heard of this program. Any thoughts?

    I was thinking that if I renew my subscription again I'll spend the extra 5 bucks for the 2005 edition.

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    Either AVG 7.0 Professional or NOD32, IMO. I stear clear of Norton security products at all costs...

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    AVG 7 if ur cheap or sophos if u have spare cash, u can give me some too if thats the case, for such a good reccomendation!

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    It is good to have anti-virus but in my entire internet past whenever I've gotten any serious virus my virus protection has always been useless. The real dangerous malware often uses the anti-virus protocol to its advantage making it much more dangerous. For example if anyone had the misfortune to run into some of the sub-seven trojans back a few years ago they were a real pain. Would infect computer and automatically change name and try to hide in folders. Then if Norton detected them they would get norton to think that they were a crucial system file that needed to be ru in the background to launch any programs.

    This left me horribly infected, norton was useless as well as any other anti-virus by this time, and I couldn't open any programs save for word and a few others. My only solution was to rename my calculator program to regedit and manually weed through my registry for hours. There were several of these viruses in a single zip file I got (being stupid) and it must have taken about 6 hours to get my computer clean. After which I had messed up the registry sufficiently that although it ran, I had to format my hard drive and reinstall.

    It is nice to have anti-virus software but the best way to be protected is to practice good downloading practices and to not be stupid. Anti-Virus is not a replacement for common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel
    I stear clear of Norton security products at all costs...
    Why is that? Norton has caused me no problems at all, I've no viruses, and intrusions are blocked swiftly. It doesn't intefere with any programs, websites, or games.

    Updates are almost daily, and small in size. They shouldn't even be an issue for dial up users, nevermind broadband users. Do you have any concrete reasons to justify not using Norton?

    As for AVG I find the free version poor and feature stripped. The paid version is overpriced for what little you do get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeA
    I have been using Norton 2002 on my machine as well as my parents for several years now. Once again it is time to renew my subscription, just wondering if anyone has found any better (maybe cheaper?) products? I've seen posts on AVG but have not heard of this program. Any thoughts?

    I was thinking that if I renew my subscription again I'll spend the extra 5 bucks for the 2005 edition.
    Ya Its right time to think for you...
    I use these products to protect my system.. AVG, BSpam, Zone Alarm....

    Since you have not heard about AVG, just check their website..

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo
    Why is that? Norton has caused me no problems at all, I've no viruses, and intrusions are blocked swiftly. It doesn't intefere with any programs, websites, or games.

    Updates are almost daily, and small in size. They shouldn't even be an issue for dial up users, nevermind broadband users. Do you have any concrete reasons to justify not using Norton?
    Are you sure you've got no viruses on your system?

    My Mum used Norton for quite a long time on her original desktop. She noticed a gradual decrease in speed and productivity to the point where she had to call a professional techie (now my partner - funny how these things turn out, heh) in to have a look. He removed Norton (finally - it's a bugger to uninstall because it refuses to 'let go') and installed AVG and after a scan discovered about 600 various viruses, trojans, worms, etc.

    My partner (ooh, that famous techie..) and I went to have a look at a friends laptop a few months ago. Again, she had Norton, had been doing the updates, etc. We installed AVG which picked up about 18 things and Microsoft Anti-spyware which picked up about 3000 spy/adware apps.

    I also know that it can be a terrible memory hog - not ideal if you're running a below average spec PC.

    Now to be fair, both examples above are of users with below average computer skills at the time, but surely it's better to have an anti-virus program that can cater for even these users as it's these who need it most?

    I use AVG free - it does exactly what I want. Updates when I ask it to, scans when I ask it to, picks up things on the fly, etc. I've used it for about.. 3-4 years and I've never had any problems.

    Of course, this is all subjective and everyone could give you a different answer. I know what I trust though.

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    I work as a part time IT technician at my school - I know that Norton antivirus is a parasite and slows your system right down. They way that it is installed is rather weird compared to a lot of other software - using three or 4 applications to run the code of one (or something like that - everything running through NMain.exe) I've got a 2.0ghz laptop w/512mb ram..roughly bog standard nowadays I guess - when I ran NAV, it took copious amounts of memory - since I've been using AVG 7 RAM usage has decreased. I also find Norton harder to manage than I do AVG.

    AVG 7 Free edition is just as good as Norton IMO, well a lot better. NOD32 is the only anti virus client that claims to have a almost 100% detection rate however. AVG is cheaper and than Norton by a long way. I've never used Norton Internet Security or anything like that after my experiences with NAV however I've heard from a few techies I know that it isn't copped up to be what it says it is.

    It's also my personal preference not to use NAV or NIS etc. The only Symantec product I use is Ghost Enterprise. We run AVG 7.0 Professional on all the schools servers without a problem.
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    NOD and Kapersky are the ones that the independent test labs claim have the best detection rates.

    I have seen lots of people whose systems stuffed up totally when they tried to use the Norton Security Suite.
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    I myself use Avast! its got a nice handful of features like p2p scanning, email scanning, im scanning, on access protection frequent updates and its free...Id use NOD32 cuz it is BY FAR the fastest scanning prog that ive ever seen, but it costs money so I steer clear from it. (Avast is free)
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    Norton stinks like a dead dog and only seems to get worse, read any techy site and see what they think about, it's a poor product that doesn't even deliver, amazing

    NOD32 has been my boy for the last few years, tried a few others from time to time and was seriously unimpressed, they mostly seem to treat the user like 12 year old, NOD32 is clean, light and gets on with it without bothering me, the tests and the serious techies rate it, try it, it's a full 30 day free trial

    I've heard it's easy to patch apparently
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    Yeah well you have to pay for quality after all however I find AVG free edition pretty good seeing as it's free.

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    Kaspersky or PC Cillin i would recommend.

    I echo what evo posted about AVG, the free edition is just a waste of time and to leaky, which, for an anti-virus package is pointless.

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    It does it's job though, even though it's detection rate isn't as high as NOD32's.


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