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    using windows Server 2003

    I was just wondering whether i could use windows server 2003 by microsoft on my PC currently having windows me with 256 MB DD RAM, P4, 1.8 Ghz...etc. i needed to host some few files for some period of the day once a week or so but dont know whether installing the server will be a problem for me or not since my system is not a server and besides i will be putting it online only for few hrs a day or so. will i be able to use my system as another ordinary system after installing the server ???

    is there anyone who is experience using \servers... can u pliz give me some suggestions. thanx
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    I reckon that would be fine however I would totally remove windows ME as it server operating system I believe are best installed on their own. However if you have a dual boot it might be ok.

    In terms of spec, I think WS2003 would run fine on there - it's been on my backup desktop pc which is a 1.2ghz athlon with 640MB ram and was fine until XP went back on it. You might want to get a bit more ram however.

    I think most stuff would run on WS2003, however you might have problems running stuff which was not designed for Windows Server 2003 (naturally )

    If you get problems then Windows 2000 Server is a good choice

    HTH.
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    what exactly do you want/need to serve ? webpages ? FTP ? there are plenty of free web,ftp,cvs etc servers out there for win32 , Apache comes to mind ! , you don't need a `server` edition of windows to do such (apart perhaps for a proprietry MS file server)
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    Buying a licence for a Server Operating System is unnecessary expense when you aren't going to use it to it's full potential.

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    Yeah, I agree with firepages just use a free solution instead. If you do run win2k3, at least put another 256mb of memory into that computer though.
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    ...also a licence for Windows Server 2003 Standard or Enterprise costs loads

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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel
    ...also a licence for Windows Server 2003 Standard or Enterprise costs loads
    To give you an idea of the cost.

    Server 2003 Standard with 5 CALS (client access license's) -- $1,799.00AUS RRP

    I agree with firepages and OracleGuy, your best of using a free server. If you do go down the path of using Server 2003 then I would boost the RAM on your PC to at least 512MB, 1GB would be better.

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    Well I think Windows 2000 Server is a bit cheaper than a licence for windows server 2003

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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel
    Well I think Windows 2000 Server is a bit cheaper than a licence for windows server 2003
    Actually it isnt. Typical Microsoft slugging you the same for older technology.

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    Oh right

    Well I'd choose Windows Server 2003 over Windows 2000 if I had the choice which one to buy.

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    i actually just wanted to know whether i'll be able to use the computer as any other normal PC after installing the server?? as i dont need the server to be online 24/7.

    anyway talking about the apache, i'm a little confused as i never got the correct installation file even after going through the site. can anyone let me know the correct URL to download apache. I have come acoss many apache programs but hey are usually access only via 127.0.0.1 which cannot be access but my friends. thanx
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    Yes you will be able to use your computer as normal under a server OS such as Windows Server 2003 or Windows 2000 Server

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    An OS is not a `server` as such , a server is an application ( IIS , Apache etc ) that runs on an OS , 'Server Edition' only applies to MS products and is basically the same underlying OS with a server bolted on (its not quite that straightforward with IIS but you get the picture?) so yes its still a PC it just has an extra application running.

    are usually access only via 127.0.0.1
    When connected to the Internet open a command prompt and type `ipconfig` , this will give you your IP address , then try typing that IP (http://203.whatever) into a web Browser & your Apache/whatever server installation will kick in and serve that IP (as well as localhost(127.0.0.1)) , whether remote users can then connect & download files depends on your Apache configuration & any firewalls you may have , which will need to allow incoming requests on Port 80 (or whatever port you configure)
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    Here are the differences between Server 2000 & Server 2003 as specified by Microsoft. I thought people may be interested.

    Easy to Deploy, Manage, and Use

    New streamlined wizards simplify the setup of specific server roles and routine server management tasks so that even servers without a dedicated administrator are easy to manage. In addition, administrators have several new and improved features designed to make it easier to deploy Active Directory. Large Active Directory replicas can be deployed from backup media, and upgrading from earlier server operating systems such as Microsoft Windows NT is easier with the Active Directory Migration Tool (ADMT), which copies passwords and is fully scriptable. Maintaining Active Directory is easier with new features, such as the ability to rename domains and redefine schema, giving administrators the flexibility to handle organisational changes that may occur. In addition, cross-forest trusts let administrators connect Active Directory forests, providing autonomy without sacrificing integration. Lastly, improved deployment tools, such as Remote Installation Services, help administrators quickly create system images and deploy servers.



    Secure Connected Infrastructure

    Windows Server 2003 lets organisations take advantage of existing IT investments, and extend those advantages to partners, customers, and suppliers by deploying key features like cross-forest trusts in the Microsoft Active Directory service as well as Microsoft .NET Passport integration. Identity management in Active Directory spans the entire network, helping ensure security throughout the enterprise. It's easy to encrypt sensitive data, and software restriction policies can be used to prevent damage caused by viruses and other malicious code. Windows Server 2003 is the best choice for deploying a public key infrastructure (PKI), and its autoenrollment and autorenewal features make it easy to deploy smart cards and certificates across the enterprise.



    Enterprise-Class Reliability, Availability, Scalability, and Performance

    Reliability is enhanced through a range of new and improved features including memory mirroring, Hot Add Memory, and health detection in Internet Information Services (IIS) 6.0. For higher availability, the Microsoft Cluster service now supports up to eight-node clusters and geographically separated nodes. Better scalability is provided with the ability to scale from a single-processor to 64-way Itanium 2 systems. Overall, Windows Server 2003 is faster with up to 140 percent better file-system performance as well as significantly faster performance for Active Directory, XML Web services, Terminal Services, and networking.



    Lower TCO Through Consolidation and the Latest Technology

    Windows Server 2003 provides many technical advances that help organisations lower total cost of ownership (TCO). The Windows Resource Manager, for example, lets administrators set resource usage (for processors and memory) on server applications and manage them though Group Policy settings. Network-attached storage helps consolidate file services. Other improvements include support for Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA), Intel Hyper-Threading technology, and multi-path input/output (I/O), all of which help "scale up" servers.



    Create Dynamic Intranet and Internet Web Sites

    IIS 6.0, the Web server included in Windows Server 2003, provides enhanced security and a dependable architecture that offers application isolation and greatly improved performance. The result: higher overall reliability and uptime. And Microsoft Windows Media services makes it easy to build streaming media solutions with dynamic content programming as well as faster and more reliable performance.



    Fast Development with Integrated Application Server

    The Microsoft .NET Framework is deeply integrated into the Windows Server 2003 operating system. Microsoft ASP.NET enables high-performance Web applications. With .NET-connected technology, developers are freed from having to write tedious "plumbing" code and can work efficiently with the programming languages and tools they already know. Windows Server 2003 provides many features that boost developer productivity and the value of applications. Existing applications can be easily repackaged as XML Web services. UNIX applications can be easily integrated or migrated. And developers can quickly build mobile-aware Web applications and services through ASP.NET mobile Web Forms controls and other tools.



    Work Smarter By Turning Your File Server Into a Powerful Collaboration Server

    Windows SharePoint Services is a platform for creating large numbers of smart Web communities focused on information sharing and team productivity. It can scale to thousands of sites within an organization. It fully supports load-balanced Web farm and clustered database deployments. Site and server managers can enforce storage quotas using a sites per-server and users per-site criterion. Site usage can be monitored to detect and retire inactive sites. Security is granular, yet easily managed. Windows Rights Management Services (RMS) is a security feature of Windows that works with applications to help safeguard confidential and sensitive enterprise information—no matter where it goes.



    Automate Operations with Script-based and Policy-based Management Tools

    Expected to be available as an add-in component, the new Group Policy Management Console (GPMC) allows administrators to better deploy and manage policies that automate key configuration areas such as users' desktops, settings, security, and roaming profiles. A new set of command-line tools lets administrators script and automate management functions, allowing most management tasks to be completed from the command line if desired. Support for Microsoft Software Update Services (SUS) helps administrators automate the latest system updates.



    Increase Document Protection and Availability via Intelligent File Storage

    With the new shadow copy restore feature, users can retrieve previous versions of files instantly, without requiring costly assistance from a support professional. Enhancements to the Distributed File System (DFS) and File Replication service (FRS) provide users with a consistent way to access their files wherever they are.



    Easy to Find, Share, and Reuse XML Web Services

    Windows Server 2003 includes Enterprise UDDI Services, a dynamic and flexible infrastructure for XML Web services. This standards-based solution enables companies to run their own UDDI (Universal Description, Discovery and Integration) directory for intranet or extranet use, making it easy to discover Web services and other programmatic resources. Developers can easily and quickly find and reuse the Web services available within the organization. IT administrators can catalog and manage the programmable resources in their network. Enterprise UDDI Services also helps companies build and deploy smarter, more reliable applications.
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    Also consider Windows Server 2003 Web Edition which has mainly IIS and those web applications.
    The 'terminal' server and features normally used for when the server is a domain server are not included.
    It's only about ~$300US, ("only" comparing with the other versions with require CAL licences)


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