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    New laptop for son isn't fast enough...would you recommend Linux?

    I'm wondering if part of the issue is just all the Windows 10 bloat/services, etc. Would installing Linux and Wine provide more resources for a game like Wizard 101? He's not playing very high-end, graphical games on this laptop.

    By the way, I've optimized this Windows 10 install quite a bit and, while it's a bit more responsive, it still feels slower than it could be.

    Here's the laptop: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MRS3MIS

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    If you ask me i would suggest to stick with windows OS, because most of the software are not compatible with Linux. When i installed windows 10 in the beginng it was a bit slow too. To make windows 10 faster, you need to check the task manager to terminate the unnecessary programs and also turn off Cortana and system animations. It will improve the system speed. If you want to change windows 10 then you can degrade to windows 8.

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    "fast enough for WHAT" becomes the question. 4 gigs is a bit light for Windows 10 despite the wild claims to the contrary (windows update will mysteriously just up and suck on one core and refuse to let go EVER until you get to at least 6 gigs)...

    Running linux JUST to run Windows programs through WINE really isn't going to offer any improvement -- you're basically at that point running a clone of the windows API on top of Linux -- so that's running two operating systems at once instead of one... how/why would you think that would be faster?!? If anything it would be worse with Wizard 101 being a DirectX game, which Wine would have to emulate through OpenGL, with Linux's graphics capabilities being outright CRIPPLED compared to Windows even if you know what you are doing when it comes to configuring the drivers....

    Really though Wizard 101 is a DirectX graphical game, and that laptop is relying on integrated Intel HD video... which like MOST laptops is utterly incapable of rendering a game like that. It's the wrong tool for the job. A $300 Walmart special el-cheapo bargain basement laptops like that one are all well and good for word processing, browsing the web, watching movies, and so forth, but gaming? NOT EVEN CLOSE! Intel HD graphics isn't for gaming. Period. You would want AMD or nVidia graphics, and even then you have to know about the model numbers and system requirements.

    THOUGH, given how primitive W101's graphics are, you MIGHT be able to at least get it playable by going into settings and setting the game to as low a resolution as possible with ALL the graphical settings dialed down to low. Let's see that's a 1366x768 display, so if it will let you I'd suggest trying ... bah, it doesn't support an aspect correct display ratio lower than 1366x768... you could try running it in a smaller window though or living with the aspect being incorrect at 800x600.

    Even so, under the "options" section for the game (either before you start it, or under the character selection screen) make sure that it's set to nothing higher than 1366x768, and that "graphics detail" and "texture detail" are set to "low'. Even "medium" settings would overpower the anemic graphics capability of that laptop. Again, you might try setting "800x600" as the resolution and then set "fullscreen" to off so it's in a smaller window... but I'd try it full screen 1366x768 first just making sure that those two detail settings are 'low'.

    Also, being a MMO the game is highly tied to networking speed, so you may want to try using a landline connection instead of wireless. This would depend on the quality of your home connection and whatever wireless router you are connected to.

    Really though, that's just not enough computer for the job on the graphics side, despite the surprisingly powerful processor. (seriously, a quad core in a $300 bargain basement model?!?). It's a business class system, not a gaming one. VERY few laptops are up for even casual gaming unless the game in question is over a decade old -- and even then.

    I mean, that would probably struggle to run a lot of Win 98 era directX/OpenGL games at native resolution, the video hardware just isn't there! If it was a desktop computer, you'd spend a third what that laptop is worth new JUST on the video card for a game that primitive... and for any "modern" gaming you're looking at the cost of that entire laptop JUST for the graphics card.

    Case in point I dropped $400 last month for a nVidia GTX 1070 for my media center. That's JUST the video card.
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    Actually, I just double checked using my workstation which is even less capable than that laptop graphically (It's a celeron J1900, low power since it stays on 24/7) --

    When you first start the game at the login screen, pull up "Settings" in bottom right corner, and in the new window make sure that the checkmarks for bloom, smoothing, and shadows are NOT checked, and that the resolution is set to 1366x768 with it fullscreen. (windowed actually performs WORSE). Then again once you've logged in during the character selection screen, go into options and make sure textures and graphics detail are set to low. That SHOULD lower the game's system requirements enough to run playable and reasonably smooth on that laptop... just don't expect it to be pretty.

    Bloom and shadows are the "worst" in terms of consuming GPU time... "bloom" is a "shader effect" that creates that "corona effect" around bright lights. Shaders take a LOT of processing time for a minor visual effect. Shadows are just a lot of raw matrix math that can cut into the frame rate pretty heavy -- so disabling both might not make it as pretty, but it should make things playable.

    Hope that works out for you. A LOT of games have settings choices like that which on lesser hardware you have to dig around to find them on lesser hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdams View Post
    If you ask me i would suggest to stick with windows OS, because most of the software are not compatible with Linux. When i installed windows 10 in the beginng it was a bit slow too. To make windows 10 faster, you need to check the task manager to terminate the unnecessary programs and also turn off Cortana and system animations. It will improve the system speed. If you want to change windows 10 then you can degrade to windows 8.
    I agree, you might want to check this out Top Ten Disadvantages of Linux

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdams View Post
    If you ask me i would suggest to stick with windows OS, because most of the software are not compatible with Linux. When i installed windows 10 in the beginng it was a bit slow too. To make windows 10 faster, you need to check the task manager to terminate the unnecessary programs and also turn off Cortana and system animations. It will improve the system speed. If you want to change windows 10 then you can degrade to windows 8.
    This is a good advice.. I've tried this before and it did work for me.

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    increase ram

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    Thanks for the advice everyone.

    I've yet to make any upgrades because it's not sluggish to the point in which it's unusable. I do believe, however, I'm going to make two upgrades in the near future...the RAM and a SSHD.

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